SCOTUS just fucked us!

[RBean]

We need two more funerals or retirements at the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, back in the trenches, we took two depositions in the Carroll case. Learned nothing new. Cops were just "following orders" or policy when they took Carroll's guns. No "due process" hearing. Depositions scheduled in the Cusumano case (issue of constitutionality of PL 400). Don't know why I bother. If the District Court Judge rules the law unconstitutional, the 2nd Circuit will just reverse. (unless we have the above funerals or retirements).

 

[Steal2B]

Take a solid pro-gun State like Texas for example, how would you explain a deep red State like Texas having a deep blue major city like Austin in it ?

I dare say every freaking urban city in Texas is deep blue (Austin, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, El Paso). They also got Rinos grazing in the prairie to elect govs the likes of GW and Ann Richards. Texas is not quite the gun utopia we long for in our dreams from our 2A oppressing State. I find there are fewer ranges and clubs than around here with more crowds / rules, more places that restrict concealed carry, and liberal mothers groups standing watch at HEB (about the only grocery chainstore) and Target stores calling the police if the see printing to report an illegal open carrier. Unless 2A rights are reinforced in the courts, I think even Texas will become less 2A friendly over time. With the immigration issues and the sub urban transplants in Texas from mostly California, Texas will someday have their very own SAFE act but I am pretty certain it will still suck alot more here in FUAC NY.

 

[nortatoga]

I guess no one has ever read Heller v DC?

 

[fartgamer]

They are nothing more than a token 2nd amendment supporters, who will be always a minority, no matter how many justices appointed by the republicans.

If you say so.

 

[holdover]

The Supreme Court is our last stand. That is our last recourse.if we cannot find justice in the courts then we're lost

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The Supreme Court is our last stand. That is our last recourse.if we cannot find justice in the courts then we're lost

Well, what it means is we only have one "box" left. But that's a road no one wants or is ready to go down. Myself included. So yeah, I guess you are right we would be lost.

 

[Mosinitis]

If you say so.

If I may say so, we are all getting screwed because of the gullible idiots.

 

[Bozo]

Thomas will die in his sleep soon enough. Probably be discovered with a pillow over his face.

 

[kgun12]

Kennedy is going to retire soon.

 

[Mosinitis]

The Supreme Court is our last stand. That is our last recourse.if we cannot find justice in the courts then we're lost

They can screw me, but they are not going to make an idiot out of me.

 

[RDN]

Roberts
Alito
Kennedy
one or more routinely waffles on the 2nd Amendment and gun cases
Kennedy is a prime suspect. Who might be the other(s)

 

[RDN]

You know how some states are really restrictive with ownership? SAFE Act, Kalifornia Kommunism, etc? Well the SCOTUS was given the opportunity to overturn a lower decision that these restrictions were not a violation of 2A. SCOTUS said they didn't care to think about it.
Supreme Court Turns Down Case on Carrying Guns in Public

SCOTUS basically throwing the gun owners in CA, NY,CT,MA under the bus and at the whim of these Tyrannical states

 

[Saltwater60]

From Justice Thomas' dissent -

"For those of us who work in marbled halls, guarded constantly by a vigilant and dedicated police force, the guarantees of the Second Amendment might seem antiquated and superfluous. But the Framers made a clear choice: They reserved to all Americans the right to bear arms for self-defense. I do not think we should stand by idly while a State denies its citizens that right, particularly when their very lives may depend on it. I respectfully dissent."

Thomas and Gorsuch have paired together in another dissent. Hopefully, Thomas will not leave sooner than anticipated now that someone who appears to be similar to Scalia is around.

To all those on SCROTUM who denied cert - BFYTW.

Well said sir. Well said. This is bad because it basically mean they only have to let us keep guns in our house.

 

[spat]

Well said sir. Well said. This is bad because it basically mean they only have to let us keep guns in our house.

Not even. In NY they *may* let you have a premise permit, but they currently don't have to.

 

[Snappo]

Not even. In NY they *may* let you have a premise permit, but they currently don't have to.

The only upside to all of this is that in an attempt to stop a tyrannical government the last thing you really need is a sidearm. What would be needed is about a million Americans with their hunting rifles and 1,000 rounds per person.

 

[Snappo]

Kennedy is going to retire soon.

Ruth Bader could die any minute. Literally.

 

[masterswimmer]

Ruth Bader could die any minute. Literally.

I'd much rather see her step down. I don't wish death on anyone, except Hitler.

Having RBG step down and live to see her legacy crumble would actually be very satisfying. Almost like the liberal/progressive heads exploding on November 8, 2016.

 

[Acer-m14]

who voted not to hear it ???

 

[holdover]

never put an enemy on death ground. Sun tzu

It means to always leave an avenue of escape .if you close off ways of escape your enemy has no choice but to fight to the death.

 

[livingston]

Interesting discussion going on at cal guns also
After the Peruta loss, any doubt about SCOTUS being political/Kcbrown hypothesis? - Calguns.net
This fellow sums it up as well as anyone

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As much as I want the SCOTUS to rule on this type of case, I don't know if I want today's court (with its current makeup) ruling on any gun case.

With today's justices, four would definitely rule against us, four might (if we are lucky) rule in our favor and one will probably rule against us.

That's not good odds.

I'm banking on Kennedy and Ginsberg retiring soon and be replaced with justices more in our favor.

Then let's see what happens.

 

[livingston]

Supreme Court Declines To Accept Yet Another Second Amendment Case
As I stated, it’s not typical for Justices to issue dissents in cases where the Court has declined to review a case at all. Typically, what happens is that the Court announces its decision on specific cases presented for review in its weekly list of Orders in pending cases. In that document, which routinely lists far more denied appeals than cases in which appeals have been accepted, the cases where appeals are denied are typically just listed with no comment at all, and it is generally never noted what the vote breakdown on certiorari may have been. The best that we can say in this case and in the others for which appeals have been denied is that there were not four Justices who were willing to vote to accept the appeal and that there were at least two, Thomas and Gorsuch, who would have granted the request for an appeal. It’s possible that there was a third, most likely it would have been Justice Alito, but since only those two Justices signed on to the dissent we can’t be sure of that at all. In a handful of cases, though, there will be a Justice who decides that it is necessary to argue in a written dissent that the Court should have accepted the appeal. The purpose of these dissents is typically to set forth on the record why the court needs to rule on this issue, thus preserving the argument for a future case, and to send a signal to litigants in similar cases that may be pending in lower courts and anticipating the idea that they took may one day be seeking Supreme Court review of their case. Whether it’s successful or not depends in large part on what type of case makes it to the Supreme Court next, and whether these Justices are able to persuade their brethren to accept the appeal in that case in order to get the matter before the Court.

This isn’t the first time that the Supreme Court has declined to hear an appeal involving Second Amendment issues. Indeed, since the Court’s 2010 decision in McDonald v. Chicago, in which it ruled that the holding in United States v. Heller applied to the states, the Court has declined to hear appeals in almost every Second Amendment case that has been put before it. This has included the Court’s 2013 decision to decline an appeal in a case involving New York State’s laws regarding carrying guns in public , a decision in 2014 to hear a similarly restrictive New Jersey law regarding carrying concealed weapons, a 2015 case involving San Francisco’s law regulating handguns, and a 2016 decision regarding laws adopted by New York and Connecticut in the wake of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As with this case, those last two cases also came with strongly worded dissents from Justices Thomas and Scalia arguing that the Court should have accepted the appeals. In fact, the only major case involving guns that the Court has accepted since its decision in McDonald involved one where a man was convicted for lying on his application for a background check when he purchased a gun that he quickly then resold to another party who would have been otherwise ineligible to buy a weapon. Additionally, Justice Thomas’s dissent lists a number of other cases in which a Circuit Court of Appeals or state Supreme Court has ruled on a Second Amendment issue where the Court has denied review.



Read more: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/supreme-court-declines-to-accept-yet-another-second-amendment-case/#ixzz4lCLnzTl8


Read more: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/supreme-court-declines-to-accept-yet-another-second-amendment-case/#ixzz4lCLMeA9I

 

[BerettaGuy]

I am relieved that they rejected this case. It was too broad.


It has little to nothing to do with the right to own a hand gun.

Besides the fact for over 100 years, NY Law says you must have permission from the State just to be able to own/purchase/possess or touch a handgun.
That is the real rub and infringement. Unfortunately the fact that for over 100 years nobody ever fought it, it has become accepted.

.I would rather see other cases go to the SC. \
Restrictions on certain types of commonly owned guns.
Magazine limits.
Illegal record keeping of gun registrations etc.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I am relieved that they rejected this case. It was too broad.


It has little to nothing to do with the right to own a hand gun.

Besides the fact for over 100 years, NY Law says you must have permission from the State just to be able to own/purchase/possess or touch a handgun.
That is the real rub and infringement. Unfortunately the fact that for over 100 years nobody ever fought it, it has become accepted.

.I would rather see other cases go to the SC. \
Restrictions on certain types of commonly owned guns.
Magazine limits.
Illegal record keeping of gun registrations etc.

I don't disagree with you about the other issues you would like to see SCOTUS knock back.

However, as I see it, Peruta, if decided in favor of handgun owners, would have been precedent setting for the entire country, and would have struck down "may issue" entirely.

That would have been huge for people in CA, NY, NJ... Because, as has been noted, : "bearing arms doesn't mean having the right to carry your handgun from the kitchen to your living room...".

 

[livingston]

I don't disagree with you about the other issues you would like to see SCOTUS knock back.

However, as I see it, Peruta, if decided in favor of handgun owners, would have been precedent setting for the entire country, and would have struck down "may issue" entirely.

That would have been huge for people in CA, NY, NJ... Because, as has been noted, : "bearing arms doesn't mean having the right to carry your handgun from the kitchen to your living room...".

True .... Right now many believe the court is too divided for a win .... We need more votes in our favor .. THIS my friends is why Trump was elected. To CHANGE the direction of the court. Stack the deck in our favor for a change......

 

[fartgamer]

Well said sir. Well said. This is bad because it basically mean they only have to let us keep guns in our house.

I'm sure Cuomo and his clan are rejoicing and plotting their next MON.

 

[CaseHardened]

Gorsuch and Thomas said they would have heard arguments on the case. ...

Justices Thomas, Gorsuch blast court decision to reject gun rights appeal

Now I'm not sayin' that any of you blame PRESIDENT TRUMP for this ruling, but I AM saying don't, just don't. His guy would have voted the right way. We just need to dispense with Justices Kennedy and Ginsburg. Then America will be Great again !!

 

[Mosinitis]

I am watching this Supreme Court strategery for 25 years. It's just a way to keep you active in politics, while giving you nothing in return. "Not ready yet" factor. We should have had pro-gun majority already and for over a decade. Somehow they shift their "Conservative beliefs" to whatever is needed to screw us. These people don't have any beliefs, they return political favors and piss on the gullible masses who buy into this circus.
After 25 years of watching this, you get the idea of what's going on.

 

[Snappo]

I'd much rather see her step down. I don't wish death on anyone, except Hitler.

Having RBG step down and live to see her legacy crumble would actually be very satisfying. Almost like the liberal/progressive heads exploding on November 8, 2016.

She's 80 and so full of herself that she prioritizes sitting in that chair while addled over doing what's best for 325 million Americans. I have a hard time worrying about whether she lives or dies.

 

[CaseHardened]

She's 80 and so full of herself that she prioritizes sitting in that chair while addled over doing what's best for 325 million Americans. I have a hard time worrying about whether she lives or dies.

I worry about her every day.

And pray for the "best".

FOR US !

 

[masterswimmer]

She's actually 84 y/o. And I don't like the karma that goes along with wishing someone death. Whatever happens, happens. But I won't be the one wishing it. Seems she's got enough of you guys doing that anyway. Ain't gonna happen just because of one more wish.

Oh, and you can bet your very last dollar that she believes she's doing amazing things for 325 million Americans. Little does she know. Oh how little she really knows.

Just retire Ruthie.