Should President Trump PARDON deceased Black Boxer JACK JOHNSON ?

Should President Trump PARDON deceased Black Boxer JACK JOHNSON ?

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Who was Jack Johnson, the boxer who may be pardoned by Trump?

I say YES !!

I don't know much about the man, but the simple fact POTUS is even considering this tells me it's a good idea. I Trust Trump.

It's not Political - No HATER will love Trump afterwards.

It's just the Right Thing to do.
 
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Ask yourself why Obama didn't pardon the guy ... Whats the catch? There is always an angle.
That being said, Two consenting adults can marry each other if they like, its really none of my dam business.
 
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I am 100% for pardoning this man.

And I will confess - right now - I am no fan of inter-racial marriage.

I'd prefer people NOT do that.

But I'm not their boss - their lives belong to themselves.

If I had a daughter, I would, admittedly, try to convince her it was not a good idea.

But if she did go ahead - I'd not disown her.

I'd be disappointed - but my feelings are my feelings.

And hers would be hers.

PARDON JACK JOHNSON.
 
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A meaningless jesture to elicit a prescribed response! Nothing more than politics. And really, is a bit ridiculous. And it has nothing to do with the issue, just the whole "pardon" thing. Laws of the time, that time, this time, any time, don't create righteousness of validity! And pardoning after the fact doesn't absolve that which was wrong.

I actual respect and admire Jack Johnson largely for his not giving a shit about authority or social norms. He took his medicine and did what he wanted anyway! Could only imagine what type of fighter he'd be with all our modern training and such.

And who invoked Barack Hussein Obama in this? How fucking moronic! Who gives a shit what that empty suit POS POTUS did? Oh wait, because he's Black, he had a better track on whether or not to Pardon Johnson? How quaint! And why not question all the Presidents back to Johnson's death? Pfffft... Obama... What a joke!
 
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Cooolone said:
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A meaningless jesture to elicit a prescribed response! Nothing more than politics. And really, is a bit ridiculous. And it has nothing to do with the issue, just the whole "pardon" thing. Laws of the time, that time, this time, any time, don't create righteousness of validity! And pardoning after the fact doesn't absolve that which was wrong.

I actual respect and admire Jack Johnson largely for his not giving a shit about authority or social norms. He took his medicine and did what he wanted anyway! Could only imagine what type of fighter he'd be with all our modern training and such.

And who invoked Barack Hussein Obama in this? How fucking moronic! Who gives a shit what that empty suit POS POTUS did? Oh wait, because he's Black, he had a better track on whether or not to Pardon Johnson? How quaint! And why not question all the Presidents back to Johnson's death? Pfffft... Obama... What a joke!
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Jack Johnson does not care at all. He's dead.

His FAMILY does.

As, I'm sure, any of us would if their Grandfather were treated so unfairly - needlessly disgraced.

At least they will see an "Orange" man cares more for their ancestor's legacy than some "Kenyan" ever did.
 
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@Willjr75 why no?
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Actually, next time I start a Poll that may be controversial, I'm going to make the responses PRIVATE.

Because people deserve to answer honestly, even, and especially, if answering honestly may be unpopular.

I'm not sure I can do that now, but will try.

If there is a way, let me know.
 
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Jack Johnson does not care at all. He's dead.

His FAMILY does.

As, I'm sure, any of us would if their Grandfather were treated so unfairly - needlessly disgraced.

At least they will see an "Orange" man cares more for their ancestor's legacy than some "Kenyan" ever did.
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I'm not against it, I just recognize it being what it is. And really, his family needs it for what? Redemption? They need his marriage to a White woman legitimized? LMAO! J Johnson would roll in his grave.

My point was made, that he didn't give a fuck, didn't care what others thought, or what the law said. A man before his time! To assuage the feelings of generations not impacted by the wrong, by reversing something that will have no direct effect upon the person it effected, in my opinion, is entirely ridiculous! Like all the higher learning places paying reparations to "decendents" of those wronged almost 200 years ago. More ridiculousness!

The subject isn't controversial at all. It just provides a subject of differing opinion. Or is it controversial because it involves "RACE"... I though the issue was if the POTUS should grant a pardon. Since the last administration abused that privilege most abrasively, I think it's something that should be removed from their powers. We are a system "for the people, by the people" one person shouldn't decide anything! Regardless of the subject matter, my opinion is Presidential Pardons should be a thing of the past.
 
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Yes Clinton pardon to Hasidic Jews for their part in a arson fire that killed a New York City fireman and shocker his wife became a senator in New York. Johnson did nothing besides date a white woman and take her to the beach
 
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Cooolone said:
I'm not against it, I just recognize it being what it is. And really, his family needs it for what? Redemption? They need his marriage to a White woman legitimized? LMAO! J Johnson would roll in his grave.

My point was made, that he didn't give a fuck, didn't care what others thought, or what the law said. A man before his time! To assuage the feelings of generations not impacted by the wrong, by reversing something that will have no direct effect upon the person it effected, in my opinion, is entirely ridiculous! Like all the higher learning places paying reparations to "decendents" of those wronged almost 200 years ago. More ridiculousness!

The subject isn't controversial at all. It just provides a subject of differing opinion. Or is it controversial because it involves "RACE"... I though the issue was if the POTUS should grant a pardon. Since the last administration abused that privilege most abrasively, I think it's something that should be removed from their powers. We are a system "for the people, by the people" one person shouldn't decide anything! Regardless of the subject matter, my opinion is Presidential Pardons should be a thing of the past.
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Pardons have been disgracefully abused by many, including Clinton and Obama.

But to me, this redeems the practice - bigtime: Trump pardons former Navy sailor imprisoned for taking photos on nuclear submarine, White House says
 
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