holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The FBI infiltrated group in the spring, so it wasnt what Trump had tweeted about taking Michigan back that caused these to act. Its a false narrative . This story is starting to stink .
Six men charged with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
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spat
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Sounds like another case of a bunch of idiots who talk real loud when they're drunk being infiltrated by the FBI who prod them into something that makes a good story at budget time.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yeah, I don't know the specifics of this but at glance it seems like a bunch of guys just talking about shit than actually with real plans.
The optics of arresting a bunch of "white supremacist militia members" is good optics for some.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Oh really. Thats like posting on the feont page of the paper "TRUMP MADE A BLACK WOMAN CRY"FBI Announces Arrests of “Michigan Militia”, Actually Anarchists, For Plotting Against Governor Whitmer
FBI Announces Arrests of "Michigan Militia", Actually Anarchists, For Plotting Against Governor Whitmer... - The Last Refuge
By now the American electorate’s confidence in the FBI is hovering near zero. FBI Director Chris Wray has done nothing to counter a reality of institutional corruption. To the contrary, and factually, over the past several years the FBI have shown they are politically motivated in all their...theconservativetreehouse.com
There is a short space in the continuum between totalitarianism and anarchy. Create the former and you will eventually devolve into the latter; it has always been thus. This current narrative is an attempt to frame a false perspective; meanwhile civics is no longer taught in schools – this is not coincidental.
The FBI will not call Antifa a domestic terror group; yet the FBI will proclaim any “militia” as a domestic threat or “extremist group”. The FBI definition of a “threat” is through the prism of big government preservation. That perspective is part of the problem.
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That guy in the video has an antifa flag behind him. This ‘militia” is antifa. Here’s the same flag in Portland: https://amac.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/antifa-protest-angry-500×334.jpg
Then after a week of outrage the post a correction on page 72 that says "Trump made a black woman cry for joy when he gave her a million dollars to start a small business".
holdover
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On Friday, however, the Washington Post profiled several members of the group. Notably absent were accusations of 'white supremacy' - perhaps after acknowledging:
Again, there isn't a shred of evidence included in the FBI's criminal complaint, nor subsequent reporting, that the men adhered to a white supremacist ideology - a false narrative.
And so, it appears that the FBI busted an anarchist, anti-government militia which plotted violence against elected officials - yet hated both sides of the aisle.
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Daniel Joseph Harris attended the rally out of concern for police violence. “It is a shame what happened with George Floyd and instances where law enforcement officers murder an unarmed man/woman who isn’t resisting arrest, was complying with the orders is wrong and need to be stopped. You look at photos and videos of news teams and protesters being beaten by riot police when they are there peacefully, you see people losing their eyes because of an officer shoots them with a “non-lethal” round like pepper balls, or rubber bullets,” Harris said. “I’ve gone through that sort of training and I can promise you weapons like that they can turn into a lethal round.
“We went to the BLM protest yesterday in Lake Orion to show our support that everyone’s voice should be heard, no matter the color on your skin. Protesting is important to me because it gives us all a voice to be heard,” he said.
Again, there isn't a shred of evidence included in the FBI's criminal complaint, nor subsequent reporting, that the men adhered to a white supremacist ideology - a false narrative.
And so, it appears that the FBI busted an anarchist, anti-government militia which plotted violence against elected officials - yet hated both sides of the aisle.
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Lake Orion Protest Affirms Black Lives Matter Movement - Oakland County Times
“I would like to see truly equal justice under the law. I think that it has become clear to everyone that there are different rules for those with power and privilege and those without.
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Daniel Joseph Harris attended the rally out of concern for police violence. “It is a shame what happened with George Floyd and instances where law enforcement officers murder an unarmed man/woman who isn’t resisting arrest, was complying with the orders is wrong and need to be stopped. You look at photos and videos of news teams and protesters being beaten by riot police when they are there peacefully, you see people losing their eyes because of an officer shoots them with a “non-lethal” round like pepper balls, or rubber bullets,” Harris said. “I’ve gone through that sort of training and I can promise you weapons like that they can turn into a lethal round.
“We went to the BLM protest yesterday in Lake Orion to show our support that everyone’s voice should be heard, no matter the color on your skin. Protesting is important to me because it gives us all a voice to be heard,” he said.
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Deplorable Me
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Kidnapping? They were escorting her to a peaceful protest.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
13 men charged .
Federal authorities say six men helped orchestrate a plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from her vacation home before the Nov. 3 election. The six were arrested and placed in custody, charged with multiple felonies that could result in life in prison for some if convicted.
State officials also charged seven different men in connection to related activities of the Wolverine Watchmen, a militia group accused of attempting to commit several crimes, including kidnapping public officials.
All 13 defendants or their attorneys could not be reached immediately for comment.
Six of the men were taken into custody in a raid on a house in suburban Detroit on Thursday morning. They have been named as Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta and 24-year-old Ty Garbin.
Those seven men are members of a militia known as Wolverine Watchmen, one of multiple known militia groups in Michigan.
They are; Paul Bellar, 21, Shawn Fix, 38, Eric Molitor, 36, Michael Null, 38, William Null, 38, Pete Musico, 42, and Joseph Morrison, 42.
After the FBI revealed the plot in an indictment on Thursday, Governor Whitmer irresponsibly accused President Trump of stirring up the hatred against her by his support for the Proud Boys. For the record, the Proud Boys, a right-leaning group, was not mentioned in the indictment, no one is stated to be a part of the group, President Trump reportedly didn't know who the Proud Boys were until the past few days, nor did President Trump give them instructions, as Whitmer claimed in her inflammatory news conference following the news of the indictments.
But now, as they say, the plot thickens. At least two of the six people indicted on Thursday were not right-wing militia members, Trump supporters, or Proud Boys, as Whitmer irresponsibly represented. According to information coming out on Thursday evening, one of the ringleaders of the plot is a leftist insurrectionist anarchist who hates President Trump. Another, Pete Musico, shares the same philosophy.
It makes you wonder what else do we not know about these Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Case Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta, and others up on state charges in Michigan.
roducer Robby Starbuck, Reddit, and probably 4Chan went to work to trace back the social media breadcrumbs left behind by the feds, who likely "disappeared" most of the social media footprints of the men who'd been charged.
Starbuck found information on two of the men indicted by the feds who appear to be off-the-reservation anarchists who hate both Trump and Whitmer.
Brandon Caserta was found to have a YouTube channel in which he apparently railed against the Trump administration. In one video obtained by Starbuck, he said "Trump is not your friend dude." He said that Trump was a "tyrant" and the "enemy."
Another arrested conspirator, according to Starbuck, Pete Musico, shared Caserta's anti-government and anti-police beliefs.
Federal authorities say six men helped orchestrate a plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from her vacation home before the Nov. 3 election. The six were arrested and placed in custody, charged with multiple felonies that could result in life in prison for some if convicted.
State officials also charged seven different men in connection to related activities of the Wolverine Watchmen, a militia group accused of attempting to commit several crimes, including kidnapping public officials.
All 13 defendants or their attorneys could not be reached immediately for comment.
Six of the men were taken into custody in a raid on a house in suburban Detroit on Thursday morning. They have been named as Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta and 24-year-old Ty Garbin.
Those seven men are members of a militia known as Wolverine Watchmen, one of multiple known militia groups in Michigan.
They are; Paul Bellar, 21, Shawn Fix, 38, Eric Molitor, 36, Michael Null, 38, William Null, 38, Pete Musico, 42, and Joseph Morrison, 42.
After the FBI revealed the plot in an indictment on Thursday, Governor Whitmer irresponsibly accused President Trump of stirring up the hatred against her by his support for the Proud Boys. For the record, the Proud Boys, a right-leaning group, was not mentioned in the indictment, no one is stated to be a part of the group, President Trump reportedly didn't know who the Proud Boys were until the past few days, nor did President Trump give them instructions, as Whitmer claimed in her inflammatory news conference following the news of the indictments.
But now, as they say, the plot thickens. At least two of the six people indicted on Thursday were not right-wing militia members, Trump supporters, or Proud Boys, as Whitmer irresponsibly represented. According to information coming out on Thursday evening, one of the ringleaders of the plot is a leftist insurrectionist anarchist who hates President Trump. Another, Pete Musico, shares the same philosophy.
It makes you wonder what else do we not know about these Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Case Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta, and others up on state charges in Michigan.
roducer Robby Starbuck, Reddit, and probably 4Chan went to work to trace back the social media breadcrumbs left behind by the feds, who likely "disappeared" most of the social media footprints of the men who'd been charged.
Starbuck found information on two of the men indicted by the feds who appear to be off-the-reservation anarchists who hate both Trump and Whitmer.
Brandon Caserta was found to have a YouTube channel in which he apparently railed against the Trump administration. In one video obtained by Starbuck, he said "Trump is not your friend dude." He said that Trump was a "tyrant" and the "enemy."
Another arrested conspirator, according to Starbuck, Pete Musico, shared Caserta's anti-government and anti-police beliefs.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
So its now being said it was a planned citizens arrest. LOVE IT! ... Is it not the people who get to decide who is committing tyranny? Gonna love seeing where this goes. Sounds like ANTIFA 2.0?
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livingston
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Perhaps the agents from the Mandalay Bay Shooting needed another case to work on ...