tony
6.5 Creedmoor
When you put a rifle in your vehicle do you usually put it in a case?
Just askin'...
Just askin'...
State Police Arrest Herkimer County Man for Failing to Store a Firearm Safely
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ManualF150
.308 Win
Lots of people I know at the gun range who own SUVs especially, will fold down the rear seats and lay their guns down on a towel or something. Especially if they don't want their sights messed with in a case.
In fact, I was at the range last week, and a father and son got done shooting and his father gave his son the long guns to hold on his lap while they drove back home.
While some use the hard cases and some use soft cases, some just don't for a variety of logical reasons.
As an example, my Glocks, I just throw them unloaded in the ammo box while in their holsters. They are durable guns.
Really a mixed one.
But I certainly wouldn't call it "irresponsible" so as long as the gun was proven unloaded.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
You’re an idiot if you run out of gas. I hope he sues and wins.
tony
6.5 Creedmoor
In this instance a cased firearm likely would have prevented any harassment or arrest. He could have walked to town and back to the vehicle with a cased firearm and a gas can and likely had no trouble.
Never had a gun case that messed up my sights, hard or soft. Poor firearm handling messes up sights. I don't "throw" my firearms anywhere, but that's just me...
Never had a gun case that messed up my sights, hard or soft. Poor firearm handling messes up sights. I don't "throw" my firearms anywhere, but that's just me...
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Glad I could help... lol
Parzival
.44 mag
It’s fun living in America, we have gun racks in trucks and rifles can be loaded in them.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes, always. I don’t own Any safe queens but I do take pride in how I take care of my firearms and Everyone that I take to the range , in the field to hunt with or travel to a buddies house for some extended recreational shooting goes into a rifle, pistol or shotgun case.
tony
6.5 Creedmoor
Thank you Sir, It just makes so much sense. Some folks just don't get it...
The guy is screwed. The law is quite plain about leaving a firearm unattended in a vehicle. In a ditch, out of gas, prior arrests with no conviction, it doesn't matter.
If an adult remains with the vehicle to ensure security, a case or safe is not required. To prevent theft and ensure safety, it is always recommended that firearms be secured during transport. Local rules for traveling with firearms also apply and may be more restrictive. For example, New York City requires that all guns be unloaded, in a case, and out of sight, even when you are with the vehicle (Penal Law § 265.45).
Safe Handling and Storage Law
How does the new law impact transporting guns in a vehicle?
Effective September 1, 2022, if you leave your gun unattended in a vehicle, it must be unloaded and locked in a fire, impact, and tamper resistant storage depository that is hidden from view. Glove compartments and glove boxes are not appropriate safe storage depositories. A plastic or aluminum, lockable, hard-sided, gun case or safe will suffice for this purpose.If an adult remains with the vehicle to ensure security, a case or safe is not required. To prevent theft and ensure safety, it is always recommended that firearms be secured during transport. Local rules for traveling with firearms also apply and may be more restrictive. For example, New York City requires that all guns be unloaded, in a case, and out of sight, even when you are with the vehicle (Penal Law § 265.45).
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Its NYSSR. What do you expect. There is probably a new federal law for the same thing, not that that would be double jeopardy or anything as long as they word it differently.
Robin
Robin
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Heller v McDonald .. locking up a gun is unconstitutional ...
"According to the Court, the ban on handgun possession in the home amounted to a prohibition on an entire class of 'arms' that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Similarly, the requirement that any firearm in a home be disassembled or locked made “it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense.” These laws were unconstitutional “under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights.” But the Court did not cite a specific standard in making its determination, and it rejected the interest-balancing standard; proposed by Justice Breyer, and a “rational basis” standard."
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
"Safe" is a relative and ambiguous term to be interpreted by the new age justice system. Just the way they like it.
Robin
Robin
What [art of this did you miss? We are talking about a guy who left his rifle in his truck, not his home.
Safe Handling and Storage Law
How does the new law impact transporting guns in a vehicle?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Yeah in
land having a air freshener hanging on your rearview mirror could probably get you to assume the position 
Yeah in
It can get you a ticket for an obstructed windshield. One of those Baby on Board stickers people put on the rear windows can, too. Don't ask how I know.
Parzival
.44 mag
Which is hilarious because you could completely black out your rear window if you want but no sticker!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
I live in a CAR ,, RV .. same
or do you loose your Right to Self Defense in your automobile
Show me where one loses their right to self-defense while in an automobile. The law is about storing an unattended firearm when left in a vehicle. Let me post the section of the law regarding unattended firearms in vehicles, and you can point out the section where one loses the right to self-defense while in a vehicle.
Safe Handling and Storage Law
How does the new law impact transporting guns in a vehicle?
Effective September 1, 2022, if you leave your gun unattended in a vehicle, it must be unloaded and locked in a fire, impact, and tamper resistant storage depository that is hidden from view. Glove compartments and glove boxes are not appropriate safe storage depositories. A plastic or aluminum, lockable, hard-sided, gun case or safe will suffice for this purpose.If an adult remains with the vehicle to ensure security, a case or safe is not required. To prevent theft and ensure safety, it is always recommended that firearms be secured during transport. Local rules for traveling with firearms also apply and may be more restrictive. For example, New York City requires that all guns be unloaded, in a case, and out of sight, even when you are with the vehicle (Penal Law § 265.45).
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Kewl... But I've read reports of properly secured hand guns being stolen from cars. Some folks shove the locked box under a seat or? (hidden from view), and the thief simply steals the locked box.
I'm not arguing with you. Just pointing out that a locked box doesn't do much good if a perp looks thru a car.
I agree with you 100% and got into an argument with a trooper when I called the Albany hotline over it. He said that the gun case must be secured to the vehicle, preferably by welding it to the trunk floor or using a cable to secure it. When I asked if he was really serious about welding the case to the floor, he said then just use a cable. I asked if he had ever heard of bolt cutters, and that a thief would be far more apt to have bolt or wire cutters on them that a cutting torch. He hung up.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I doubt they'd use a cutting torch, but from wrenching, I can say my 20V DeWalt angle grinder can make quick work of cutting into a safe. Albeit it isn't stealthy (mean quiet), but neither is a torch.