THE ADVENTURES OF THE 47TH PRESIDENT....

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Would you look at that....


Edit: Been thinking about this a min. Is this a play to get the DOJ to move their ass and release the information unedited? It would be the only way to be sure Trump isn't involved.
 
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SomeSoldier said:
Would you look at that....


Edit: Been thinking about this a min. Is this a play to get the DOJ to move their ass and release the information unedited? It would be the only way to be sure Trump isn't involved.
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Could be. Or is it a ploy to get Musks sales and stock prices to rise? Since he became a Trump ally, the left has abandoned him and stopped buying Tesla's. If he has a public falling out with Trump the left wing nuts will start to love him again.
 
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Whoa!

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WTF?! FBI Director Kash Patel: "My house just got swatted yesterday."

JOE ROGAN: "The head of the FBI gets swatted?"

PATEL: "Yeah. It's the ultimate height of hypocrisy. They have 2 sets of rules. One against you, one for them."

This is MADNESS.
 
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Elon is right about several things.

First of all, by removing EV Incentives Trump stabbed Elon in the back. Not cool.

EV's may not be ready for Prime Time, but if Trump can get Nuclear rolling again, electricity will be cheap and plentiful. And honestly, my 2018 Nissan Leaf EV I bought used, is a dream come true. Pretty much zero maintenance. And I just plug it, in my driveway, and I'm good.

Forcing EV's is wrong. But no one forced me. It made total sense for this retired person.

In time, with nuclear, and improved technology, pretty much everyone will drive an EV. By choice.

And not to "Save the Planet". F the Planet. It's a rock. Not a God.
 
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CaseHardened said:
Elon is right about several things.

First of all, by removing EV Incentives Trump stabbed Elon in the back. Not cool.

EV's may not be ready for Prime Time, but if Trump can get Nuclear rolling again, electricity will be cheap and plentiful. And honestly, my 2018 Nissan Leaf EV I bought used, is a dream come true. Pretty much zero maintenance. And I just plug it, in my driveway, and I'm good.

Forcing EV's is wrong. But no one forced me. It made total sense for this retired person.

In time, with nuclear, and improved technology, pretty much everyone will drive an EV. By choice.

And not to "Save the Planet". F the Planet. It's a rock. Not a God.
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Ending the EV incentives is not new. Elon knew that was coming last summer. Trump made no secrets about it.

And Elon was cool with it. It might cut his sales a little, but it might not, it would hurt his competitors much much more.

I think EVs are ready for prime time now. They're not right for everyone for every situation, but certainly the infrastructure is there now that they make sense for a ton of people.

They're fantastic for anyone who can install a charger at home. We very rarely charge anywhere else. Like maybe 3-4 times in the year we've had the car, and my place is *not* urban by any stretch. We still have other vehicles, gas and diesel if we need them, but the fact is 99% of our driving is the Tesla now.
 
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CaseHardened said:
Elon is right about several things.

First of all, by removing EV Incentives Trump stabbed Elon in the back. Not cool.

EV's may not be ready for Prime Time, but if Trump can get Nuclear rolling again, electricity will be cheap and plentiful. And honestly, my 2018 Nissan Leaf EV I bought used, is a dream come true. Pretty much zero maintenance. And I just plug it, in my driveway, and I'm good.

Forcing EV's is wrong. But no one forced me. It made total sense for this retired person.

In time, with nuclear, and improved technology, pretty much everyone will drive an EV. By choice.

And not to "Save the Planet". F the Planet. It's a rock. Not a God.
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If you like your EV you should pay for it then and not my tax money. If they are so great and everything they say then why do they need to pay people and provide tons of incentives to buy one. Most auto manufacturers are ramping up production of V-8’s GM just out a billion into it and Dodge is bringing theirs out of partial retirement.
Incentives should end and have been around too long.
 
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We don't need to subsidize electric vehicles to make them take hold. We need to get cheap electricity online and the infrastructure to deliver it in place. If your house electric bill dropped to $5/mo, it would not take anyone long to realize the massive savings they could realize by switching to electric vehicles with home charging, electric heating, etc.

The main issue is, the governments are going about it the wrong way. They need to increase the supply (make electricity dirt cheap), rather than try to artificially inflate the demand (banning gas vehicles, outlawing natural gas heating, etc). By approaching the solution from the completely wrong direction, they're driving up costs of things like electricity, greatly reducing - or even completely destroying - the economic case for electric everything.

There's one well-known, safe, scalable, and effective solution: nuclear power, combined with grid infrastructure updates (including burying end-point delivery lines). All other options are too little, too late. Unfortunately, achieving this requires politics, which is geared towards collecting votes, not implementing effective solutions.
 
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spat said:
Ending the EV incentives is not new. Elon knew that was coming last summer. Trump made no secrets about it.

And Elon was cool with it. It might cut his sales a little, but it might not, it would hurt his competitors much much more.

I think EVs are ready for prime time now. They're not right for everyone for every situation, but certainly the infrastructure is there now that they make sense for a ton of people.

They're fantastic for anyone who can install a charger at home. We very rarely charge anywhere else. Like maybe 3-4 times in the year we've had the car, and my place is *not* urban by any stretch. We still have other vehicles, gas and diesel if we need them, but the fact is 99% of our driving is the Tesla now.
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Well, Elon may have been ok with the termination of the incentives - before the Communist Mob turned on him.

Trump and Musk were both a little naive.

Trump was beloved by New York and Hollywood for decades. Elon was the greenies favorite fellow.

I don't think either anticipated how mindless Democrats are.
 
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Well, Elon may have been ok with the termination of the incentives - before the Communist Mob turned on him.

Trump and Musk were both a little naive.

Trump was beloved by New York and Hollywood for decades. Elon was the greenies favorite fellow.

I don't think either anticipated how mindless Democrats are.
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I still don't think Elon really cares about that much.

I think he's pissed that Trump isn't sticking to being fiscally conservative enough.

Too much pork in the "big beautiful bill".

Trump allowed the pork to get the bill enough support to pass. Elon is pissed about that and thinks Trump should have taken a harder line on the pork.

Plus the concept of big omnibus bills is an anathema to property functioning government to begin with.
 
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Whoa!

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WTF?! FBI Director Kash Patel: "My house just got swatted yesterday."

JOE ROGAN: "The head of the FBI gets swatted?"

PATEL: "Yeah. It's the ultimate height of hypocrisy. They have 2 sets of rules. One against you, one for them."

This is MADNESS.
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I listened to the entire podcast yesterday, it was worth the time. IMO
 
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The Big Beautiful Bill addresses the Elephant in the Room - ILLEGALS

Once we have funded a truly functional Deportation Engine, a great many problems will correct themselves.

Illegals cost us billions of dollars a year.

Throw them off of Medicaid, Social Security, SNAP, Housing, Schools - this country will be great again.
 
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CaseHardened said:
The Big Beautiful Bill addresses the Elephant in the Room - ILLEGALS

Once we have funded a truly functional Deportation Engine, a great many problems will correct themselves.

Illegals cost us billions of dollars a year.

Throw them off of Medicaid, Social Security, SNAP, Housing, Schools - this country will be great again.
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Just curious what you think it will cost to remove the majority of them? 10’s of billions, 100’s of billions. Will it be cheaper in the long run, probably but it won’t be cheap. We should certainly do it but only to the point where it makes financial sense and the bad ones are out. At some point catching the last 5-10% may cost us astronomically more than it’s worth. Time will tell and it will be an interesting ride.
 
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Just curious what you think it will cost to remove the majority of them? 10’s of billions, 100’s of billions. Will it be cheaper in the long run, probably but it won’t be cheap. We should certainly do it but only to the point where it makes financial sense and the bad ones are out. At some point catching the last 5-10% may cost us astronomically more than it’s worth. Time will tell and it will be an interesting ride.
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Probably be cheaper in the short term too.

It will cost billions to remove them, but it costs billions a year to keep them.

How long is the ROI on deporting a criminal on welfare, section 8, and 10 other kinds of government dole. Could be less than a year.
 
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I love Trump but seriously, what the fuck...

Thomas Fugate, 22 year old recent graduate of UTSA to head the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships at the United States Department of Homeland Security
 
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I love Trump but seriously, what the fuck...

Thomas Fugate, 22 year old recent graduate of UTSA to head the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships at the United States Department of Homeland Security
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Alexander Hamilton was 21 in 1776. James Monroe was 18.

I'm not too worried about it. We want disruption, not people who are going to stick with the status quo.

Young blood is good for disruption.
 
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Alexander Hamilton was 21 in 1776. James Monroe was 18.

I'm not too worried about it. We want disruption, not people who are going to stick with the status quo.

Young blood is good for disruption.
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That was a different time when being 15 meant being a man. XY's who are biologically 30 aren't fit to be classified as a man these days. And I call them XY's because many aren't fit to be called a men/man.
 
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That was a different time when being 15 meant being a man. XY's who are biologically 30 aren't fit to be classified as a man these days. And I call them XY's because many aren't fit to be called a men/man.
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You're not wrong.

There are tons of 50 year old males today with less maturity than a 12 year old had 50 years ago.

But that doesn't mean *all* 20 year olds today are immature twat waffles.

I'm going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he picked a good one.
 
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I'm going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he picked a good one.
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Trump is the kind of guy that has to have the last word......all the time. I dont think it matters who he picks for anything, I dont think he lets anybody make a final decision, its all gotta go before him first.
 
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