the coming storm
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holdover
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Ask him that.
Marine Cpl
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An American police officer has more to lose than a Vietnamese police officer. That's fact. It isn't relativity when they don't own their own homes and their daughters aren't going to school but rather working at a gogo bar fucking foreigners.
I've seen that with my own eyes.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Ticking.""tickling."" Who?
GTN
.308 Win
Next race war is in the works. Men against women!
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Such a dumb materialistic argument. A police officer in Vietnam has just as much to lose even though they may not have all the material crap we in the states over emphasize and take for granted.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No they don't. They live impoverished. They hustle just to eat. Our police officer doesn't have to hustle to eat.
Go to Mexico and you'll see police officers robbing tourists with bogus crimes to extort them.
True story. I was robbed by a Mexican police officer in Tijuana who said I needed to pay him a fine for urinating in the street when I didn't. He wanted 20 bucks. I had to give it to him. He doesn't make 20 bucks a day.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
They aren't too poor to have families and people they care about. Stop thinking about material crap. Real life isn't based on currency exchange rates.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Greedy ones. But they don't have to do it to survive.
Look. I've traveled the world. Been in a lot of 3rd world countries. I've seen things with my own eyes. Just Google what goes on and how much police get paid in 3rd world countries. Their salary doesn't cover the cost of living. Nowhere close.
NYPD only starts at $42000, is that enough to survive in the city?
ArmedCorgi
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I'd think not. No fucking way.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You aren't getting the point. The point is that we have more to lose than they do. It isn't just materialistic.
Forget about police. Do you think you have as much to lose as someone else in Vietnam? Do you think you'd risk getting yourself killed when your belly is full compared to someone in a third world country that has nothing?
Do you think your neighbor would risk everything killing cops and soldiers compared to someone who lives in a village that has nothing?
You are being disingenuous if you say yes.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. In the outerboroughs it is.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I see your point, but as I said before it's relative. Someone in Vietnam has no idea what it's like to be living in America. What they have is as precious to them as what we have is to us. Even if they don't compare on a value scale.
holdover
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Sometimes having nothing is a good enough reason to fight . Sometimes you have to much to protect, It all depends on how you look at it.
ArmedCorgi
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It's almost as if you are saying that because they aren't American and don't make what we make or possess what we possess, their lives and everything important to them mean nothing. You are comparing 3rd world to 1st world. Apples to oranges.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
The things you own, end up owning you.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Right. What they have, they have. But that isn't the point.
But let's look here. I'm more than likely to take up arms than Derek Jeter would. Why? I have less to lose. I'm being affected directly. He isn't.
Who do you think is more than likely to storm the government now? You who is well off or a poor dude in the South who's a day laborer who's struggling to make ends meet?
You both live with a roof over your heads and you both eat food and love your wives.
holdover
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The Vietnamese farmer whos family has been living on their own land for centuries, farming and raising chickens, growing rice , Raising kids Is actually very happy with his life even though he may not have jack squat for a pension or a nice 4 bedroom house but ask him he if he would trade it all for that.
Men like that fought and died for the little they had . It was motivation enough for them to take up arms against a superpower.
Men like that fought and died for the little they had . It was motivation enough for them to take up arms against a superpower.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That Vietnamese farmer may have more to lose and not fight than you do.
holdover
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They can both be equally motivated. a southern plantation owner loseing everything he has worked for as well as the farm boy protecting his dads land,
holdover
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That's true, but then again, they did fight .
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Exactly. Apples to Oranges. That's what I'm saying. Glad you got it.
And it isn't about American or 3rd World. A banker in a 3rd world has more to lose than a day laborer here.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Not all. You are saying all did.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I'll talk in an hour. On my way home from work.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No Im not. where did I ever say that?
ArmedCorgi
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Well yes, when you put it that way, you have me there. I would posit though, that it would still be relative to what is being valued and what said persons awareness of value is.
If you have two people in different countries facing the same oppression and hardship only, one has 5 cars, a super model wife with a pussy just right and a big house with an infinity pool. The other only has a straw hut he built with his own hands, a loving wife, an outdoor shit house that happens to be the envy of the whole village and a nice looking rock. They will be equally worried about losing what they have. And if I'm the poor guy, I have no time to waste on comparing what matters to me to some far off land or economic strata I'll never be a part of.
I guess it all depends on what is really important to the individual!?
ArmedCorgi
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Umm yes!