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Putins blow job.
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Things are heating up in the Donbass
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Not to worry, He said If they were successful and took Russian soil( Crimea) they would have no other option but to use nukes
Number 1, the Ukes, dont have the army to take and hold the Crimea.
Number 2 probably wouldnt use nukes on thier own soil
Number 3 it was'nt Putin that said that. This gives Putin some plausible deniability that he threatened the west with nukes .(It wasnt me!)
number 4 it has always been US and Russian policy to possibly use nukes if invaded , nothing new.
neither side wants a nuclear war. everyone louse's .
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Well nobody wants lice.
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Its a tough room.
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damn they have a full on rock concert playing music while there fighting ..
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Alexei Navalny: Russian opposition leader's jail term extended to 19 years
The Russian opposition leader is found guilty of further offences in a trial held at a prison colony.
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Russian agent 'tricked into detailing Navalny assassination bid'
A new recording purports to reveal how Russian state agents poisoned Putin critic Alexei Navalny.
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Putin, such a vindictive, scared little man, kinda reminds one of O'Dumbo.
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Russian agent 'tricked into detailing Navalny assassination bid'
A new recording purports to reveal how Russian state agents poisoned Putin critic Alexei Navalny.
Putin, such a vindictive, scared little man, kinda reminds one of O'Dumbo.
Robin
Fairytales for the idiots. I guess Russians don't have a poison that works or know how to use it. The list of unsuccessful poisonings keeps growing.
Great speech at the UN today by Russian representative. Puts globalists, colonialists and imperialists in their place.
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You just can't not step in for your secret santa can you.
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The west has no credibility, How can they possibly offer Putin a deal ? Putin has 1 option finish the Ukraine . No more bullshit deals. Of course he has to be very careful if he doesn't want NATO jumping in . Russia is churning out weapons and ammo around the clock and its getting weapons from China Iran and North Korea. Ukraine is sucking dick for AK rounds , Half the shit the west gave them is gone. The West is paying all employees of Ukrainian government, thier economy is shot , the weapons are slowing down The Ukraine counter offensive was a complete failure. The writeing is on the wall.
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Russian MP’s Big Claim: Putin Planning to Attack NATO's Underbelly? | Vantage with Palki Sharma
Russian MP’s Big Claim: Putin Planning to Attack NATO's Underbelly? | Vantage with Palki SharmaA Russian MP has claimed that Putin could order Wagner fighter...
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Russian MP’s Big Claim: Putin Planning to Attack NATO's Underbelly? | Vantage with Palki SharmaA Russian MP has claimed that Putin could order Wagner fighter...
Polish mercenaries participated in the incursion into Belgorod region, which is undisputed Russian territory. The precedent has been set for Russian mercenaries.
Poland has a long history of belligerence coupled with the foolishness of its leaders.
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Russia conscription laws change, leaving some fearful of Ukraine war call-up
As Russia increases the age limit for conscription, we speak to men afraid of being called up to Ukraine.
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Why are people leaving Russia, who are they, and where are they going?
A trickle of Russians leaving became a stream after the full-scale invasion of Ukraine of 2022.
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Aug 10 2022 Ukraine round-up: Is Russia running out of troops?
Oct 14 2022 War in Ukraine: Is Russia’s stock of weapons running low?
"We know - and Russian commanders on the ground know - that their supplies and munitions are running out," says Sir Jeremy Fleming, head of the British intelligence agency GCHQ.Russia's missile stockpile is a closely guarded secret, and we don't know what material Western intelligence services are basing their assessments on, but there are some clues in images emerging from the most recent attacks.
Nov 9 2022 Ukraine war: Russia 'losing slowly', says UK's defence secretary
Nov 11, 2022 Putin can’t escape fallout from Russian retreat in Ukraine
May 13 2023 Ukraine claims gains in Bakhmut after Russia denials
Feb 24 2023 Has Putin's war failed and what does Russia want from Ukraine?
Mar 6 2023https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760
The continued use of the shovel "as a weapon highlights the brutal and low-tech fighting which has come to characterise much of the war", it said."This is probably a result of the Russian command continuing to insist on offensive action largely consisting of dismounted infantry, with less support from artillery fire because Russia is short of munitions."The BBC has been unable to independently verify these reports. The ministry did not give information on where such battles were taking place.
the Ukrainian military said on Sunday that it had no intention of withdrawing from Bakhmut.
Jun 2023 Ukraine war: Countdown has begun to end of Putin, say Kyiv officials
BBC , Really? Thats like me qouteing Pravda. Pay attention to the map and the action and independent sources to get a better idea of whats going on .the BBC is a joke.
Both sides have motives to lie, its very hard to determine whos more truthfull, the only way to get an idea is to listen to independant sources observe the news and the maps . CNN BBC are total bullshit
Oct 14 2022 War in Ukraine: Is Russia’s stock of weapons running low?
"We know - and Russian commanders on the ground know - that their supplies and munitions are running out," says Sir Jeremy Fleming, head of the British intelligence agency GCHQ.Russia's missile stockpile is a closely guarded secret, and we don't know what material Western intelligence services are basing their assessments on, but there are some clues in images emerging from the most recent attacks.
Nov 9 2022 Ukraine war: Russia 'losing slowly', says UK's defence secretary
Nov 11, 2022 Putin can’t escape fallout from Russian retreat in Ukraine
May 13 2023 Ukraine claims gains in Bakhmut after Russia denials
Feb 24 2023 Has Putin's war failed and what does Russia want from Ukraine?
Mar 6 2023https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760
The continued use of the shovel "as a weapon highlights the brutal and low-tech fighting which has come to characterise much of the war", it said."This is probably a result of the Russian command continuing to insist on offensive action largely consisting of dismounted infantry, with less support from artillery fire because Russia is short of munitions."The BBC has been unable to independently verify these reports. The ministry did not give information on where such battles were taking place.
the Ukrainian military said on Sunday that it had no intention of withdrawing from Bakhmut.
Jun 2023 Ukraine war: Countdown has begun to end of Putin, say Kyiv officials
BBC , Really? Thats like me qouteing Pravda. Pay attention to the map and the action and independent sources to get a better idea of whats going on .the BBC is a joke.
Both sides have motives to lie, its very hard to determine whos more truthfull, the only way to get an idea is to listen to independant sources observe the news and the maps . CNN BBC are total bullshit
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What a bunch of shit.
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Every time you make a post I think the same thing. Another great response by a guy that knows nothing. Your pretty impressive .
Those are all bullshit stories from the BBC, none of which are true. but you keep on believing them, it doesn't change reality, you may as well quote Wolf Blitzer why your at it.
Those are all bullshit stories from the BBC, none of which are true. but you keep on believing them, it doesn't change reality, you may as well quote Wolf Blitzer why your at it.
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More shit from another know it all.
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why dont you post something intelligent to support your brainwashed view of the world? Instead of your ""bullshit"" comments?
Ill tell you what bullshit is, the BBC being wrong every fucking time . Russians arnt retreating, Russians arent running out of ammo, Russians are not charging fortified positions with shovels. My God man, how dumb can you be?
Ill tell you what bullshit is, the BBC being wrong every fucking time . Russians arnt retreating, Russians arent running out of ammo, Russians are not charging fortified positions with shovels. My God man, how dumb can you be?
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You still waiting for that Ukraine ""spring"" offensive to take back Crimea? LOL
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Yesterday I spent time watching some more videos of the trench fighting/clearing going on.
Ho Lee Fuk !
Brutal stuff !
Ho Lee Fuk !
Brutal stuff !
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Yeah, its fucking nasty. slaughtering each other like dogs.
Robin
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One thing for sure and factual, you don't know what I know.
Carry on professor.
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Carry on professor.
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And the Russians aren't in Kiev, a year and a half into their 2 week invasion.
It's a classic war of attrition now. Will Russia run out of men and material before NATO leadership runs out of money laundering schemes.
Not looking good for Russia, unless a better cash cow comes along quick.
Honestly, the best strategy for Putin at this point would be to book Hunter Biden for a Moscow art show.
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LOL, Not a chance . How many tanks a month does Ukraine produce?? 0. How many aircraft? 0 . where is the Ukraine economy? the Russian economy is booming, the ruble consistently gains against the dollar . the Europeans have no more inventory of weapons to ship in any large quantity . Even Biden the moron let it slip out. Germany sent 50 leopards, US sent 100 Bradley's Half are confirmed destroyed with nothing to show for it . Ukraine will need at least 1500+ main battle tanks to make any kind of difference. Russia out numbers them 10 -1 in artillery. Ukraine is short artillery rounds, (We had to send them cluster bombs) Russia out numbers them in aircraft, Russia out numbers them in Infantry Russia just destroyed the ports in Odessa now arms will have to be offloaded in Poland and shipped overland where Russian spys will be watching everymove from the time they arrive . You guys think thats winning? its crystal clear ,they are fucked.
Russia will never run out of material . they hold half of Asia and are allies with the rest , Shit, the Europeans are still buying russian gas via third partys
Yesterday I spent time watching some more videos of the trench fighting/clearing going on.
Ho Lee Fuk !
Brutal stuff !
It's super not fun looking
I've watched a lot from the civ div channel
This is all pretty accurate.
To summarize it in poker terms, Putin is "pot committed". He's not going to fold now no way. IMO snowball chance in hell he agrees to a peace deal now knowing full well NATO will just take the next 5 years to rearm and re equip Ukraine and they can do it all over again 2.0 in 5 year. Nope not happening.
Russia strategically needs to see this through to conclusion on whatever their perceived end state Victory looks like.
My .02 cents and I tend to view myself as a pragmatic on this war. I feel for the Ukrainian citizens, I don't think Ukraine government is.that great at all and I don't think Russia is as bad as they are made out to be, I think in many ways if you're objective enough to look at the 30,000 ft view the West and nato are the villains here. The whole situation well It sucks, it is what it is
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If Russia has a bottomless supply of men and tanks, then why are they sending in conscripts and museum pieces.
Also, the Rubel being strong against the dollar is *not* a good sign. It means that Russia's imports have fallen drastically. The Rubel is strong because there aren't a lot in global circulation, because people aren't accepting them for payment.
They may still be exporting petroleum in Asia, but they aren't selling it in Rubels, and when they buy stuff, they aren't paying for it with Rubels either.
As far as how this will turn out, it is exactly as I said. It will continue as a stalemate for as long as Biden and the other NATO allies are able to use it to funnel taxpayer money into their own pockets. Ukraine will never be given enough resources to win (if they win, the cash cow dries up). But they will always have just enough to keep the Russians from winning either (for the same reason).
Russia *will* run out, of everything, long before NATO does. The entire Russian GDP is less than half of California. If they went all in, total mobilization WWII style, they could just about match Texas on it's own.
Russia's *entire military budget* is slightly less than the revenue from Raytheon alone.
When you talk about losses, we could replace every tank lost by both side with M1 Abrams that are just sitting in storage without producing any new ones, or removing any in active service.
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Some of what you say is true . the Russian GDP is growing, not shrinking. Whats happening there is similar to what happened here in ww2. production and growth went wild The Russians are ,or have built/building two new tank factory's with a production capacity of 90 tanks+ a month.
No of course not, the west will eventually stop arming Ukraine and it will collapse on its own, ORRRR NATO jumps into the fight and who the hell knows what happens then.
that we could, but we wont , they will be lucky to get the 30 monkey model abrams in sept .
Not tanks, but men , they have to use conscripts in a war this large , We used conscripts in ww1ww2 korea vietnam . its not the conscripts its the training and leadership that suck , however, that being said , they have begun to adapt to western weapons and tactics
So around 2 years ? You believe the Ukraine is going to defeat Russia and drive them back over the old borders?
No of course not, the west will eventually stop arming Ukraine and it will collapse on its own, ORRRR NATO jumps into the fight and who the hell knows what happens then.
????? Lets just agree its not large. but it is growing .
You understand this and claim Ukrine can win? Over time they cant win . They did pretty dam good , Ill say that. but they lose in the end. Theres no path to victory and Russia wont stop until the threat is gone
that we could, but we wont , they will be lucky to get the 30 monkey model abrams in sept .