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There is nothing *now* keeping NATO from marching into Moscow *today*.If Nato destroyed the Russian army in Ukraine, Russia would be completely defenseless , Russia is theirs for the taking , All they have to do is just drive to Moscow almost unopposed. The temptation would be to easy, the only thing to stop them is the ""good will"" of NATO .
They would find a reason , and do it , no doubt. they are not stupid . Nobody could stop them .
Thats true, but they are not the push overs you make them out to be . If Russia didnt have the top of the line missile technology and a capable air force , 5 times the artillery we have , better electronic warfare than NATO, Id have to concede the fact. Take into consideration the terrain in the Ukraine also Mostly wide open farmlands , similar to WW1 , not a lot of cover. the rasputia in the spring and fall are a natural barrier to maneuver warfare.
And the winter, where there is 3-4 feet of snow on the ground. Ever try walking to the store in 3 feet of snow? Its a mother fucker, not to mention somebody shooting at you. And throw a 80 pound rucksack on while your at it Things slow down in the winter because its to difficult even for modern military's to make advancements. Even the Ukraine's were complaining that the 70 ton Abrams were constantly getting stuck .
Also factor in the military alliance with China and Iran NK, They would provide all the Military aid they needed and would commit to war if necessary .The point is, its no easy task ,
If you achive your goal, an opportunity opens up, After defeating their army and airforce in Ukraine , you think NATO is just going to let this gem slip away? They could just walk in the door and take it, but they wont? They would say something like the Putin regime must be removed to restore peace or some other bullshit and just do it . Your faith in human decency is impressive. Its a golden opportunity, and with that gem comes the ability to apply military pressure to China from the west. Thats the cherry man.
What makes you think that?
I dont argue with the economics except that Russia can produce things far cheaper than the west which helps to off set the economic advantage of the west
Troops strength? Uk has 80k troops right now, Germany isnt a whole lot better. Most of NATO is fairly weak because they didnt put the 2% GDP into it like they were supposed to. It would take them time to get them up to speed
And you wonder why Russia feels threatened? Sometimes you have to look at the chessboard from the other side , you can get inside someones head , understand their situation from their perspective and anticipate possible ,probable responses.
You have just been promoted to chief of staff of the Russian army Putin asks for your recommendation on attacking NATO and invading Europe , what do you tell him?
There hasn't been anything for 30 years, aside from the fact that nobody in their right mind would want to.
The only meaningful defense they have are their nukes. Destroying their troops in Ukraine would have no effect on those.
And no, the Ukrainian terrain and weather wouldn't make much difference.
Ukraine doesn't have air superiority, or a large enough Airforce to make a difference.
NATO would just blow up everything mechanized from the air and then let the Ukranians walk in to mop up the undefended infantry.
And I've got news for you about the state of Russia's air force, missile technology and electronic warfare.
The only way to describe their stuff as "top of the line" is to pretend that it's still 1980.
The Russian Airforce vs NATO would make the Iraqis in Desert Storm look like they put up a good fight.
With Allies like Iran and North Korea, who wouldn't be terrified LOL.
Pretty sure that conflict would just be the excuse the Isrealis need to eliminate the Iranian military and supporting industry.
You *have* seen how that fight goes right ?
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