This is comical, Hochul says ammunition background checks will reduce firearm homicides by 22%

[Saltwater60]

Question....how will the Gestapo aka NYSP know to track ammo sales? Will they demand the records of all the purchases from the distributors? Lets say I know an FFL well and said FFL has a shit ton of ammo and just happens to sell me some with no stupid check or recording the useless info, with cash of course. The Gestapo won't know of the transaction. If I used a CC, then they would know more about the transaction. Unlike a gun, there is no serial number on the ammo. So how would they even know if some FFLs just said screw it and didnt bother dealing with checks for people they know.

Exactly why I’ll go to PA to buy mine from now on.
I want to know what will happen to all those paper records?

 

[US RIFLE M1A]

I thought she did not need statistics.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Bigfoot]

That guy above has his social media on his face. No password is needed.

But he doesn't look like the type that gives a shit about gun control laws anyways.

 

[meketrefe]

What we need is a new federal law called the public servant accountability act and this time specifically designed for politicians so the results of their words and actions will be used to get fired or worse depending on the severity. ...you know like any other public servant in law enforcement, fire, emergency ...
Why politicians shouldn't be accountable and personally liable like others?

 

[2WheelGnnr]

They know these numbers cuz they did a study....DUH...... they get their numbers from Studies......Studies of pulling numbers from THIN AIR!!!

How can you quantify this...really????!!!!!!!!

 

[Steal2B]

 

[minderasr]

More like a Cee U Next Tuesday.

Well she certainly can't understand normal thinking!

 

[Saltwater60]

That guy above has his social media on his face. No password is needed.

But he doesn't look like the type that gives a shit about gun control laws anyways.

Are you kidding me? Hochul will use that guy as her next success story and he will be standing on stage next to her.

 

[CaliberPlus]

Hang in there man. We appreciate guys like you that are willing to put up with the BS. Sadly this law will make you lose out because I won’t be buying any ammo that requires a background check and I will be going to PA for my ammo. Best of luck and I truly mean it n

Thanks! Btw, I am a girl.
The bs is so deep and the fact is, if we stay in business we will be one of the contributors to the illegal register, or as listed in the law, database.

Question....how will the Gestapo aka NYSP know to track ammo sales? Will they demand the records of all the purchases from the distributors? Lets say I know an FFL well and said FFL has a shit ton of ammo and just happens to sell me some with no stupid check or recording the useless info, with cash of course. The Gestapo won't know of the transaction. If I used a CC, then they would know more about the transaction. Unlike a gun, there is no serial number on the ammo. So how would they even know if some FFLs just said screw it and didnt bother dealing with checks for people they know.

The answer to that is the cameras that are to be installed. They are to be from an "approved" company, centrally monitored, over the POS, and records kept for a minimum of two years. I have cameras, closed system. Much more secure than an internet based system. (And who the hell is going to secure the records and what is the cost of that?!?) This is supposed to happen in December of this year.

 

[Vicarious]

Im in other north east states rather frequently, guess who isnt buying in NY any longer.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Yea, and Eating a bunch of dicks reduces political incompetence by 41%


See I can make random shit up too

 

[SonOfSun]

How will it reduce it by 22%? I don't see any explanation outside of pulling random numbers out of her ass.

 

[mark60]

How will it reduce it by 22%? I don't see any explanation outside of pulling random numbers out of her ass.

I'll bet that number didn't even hit the sides as it came out.

 

[CaliberPlus]

This is from Legis Scan.


6. If the superintendent of state police certifies that background
23 checks of ammunition purchasers may be conducted through the national
24 instant criminal background check system, [use of that system by] a
25 dealer or seller shall contact the division of state police to conduct
26 such check which shall be sufficient to satisfy subdivisions four and
27 five of this section [and such checks shall be conducted through such
28 system, provided that a record of such transaction shall be forwarded to
29 the state police in a form determined by the superintendent].
30 § 20. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.06 to read
31 as follows:
32 § 400.06 National instant criminal background checks.
33 1. Any dealer in firearms that sells, delivers or otherwise transfers
34 any firearm shall contact the division of state police to conduct a
35 national instant criminal background check pursuant to section two
36 hundred twenty-eight of the executive law.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is from Legis Scan.


6. If the superintendent of state police certifies that background
23 checks of ammunition purchasers may be conducted through the national
24 instant criminal background check system, [use of that system by] a
25 dealer or seller shall contact the division of state police to conduct
26 such check which shall be sufficient to satisfy subdivisions four and
27 five of this section [and such checks shall be conducted through such
28 system, provided that a record of such transaction shall be forwarded to
29 the state police in a form determined by the superintendent].
30 § 20. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.06 to read
31 as follows:
32 § 400.06 National instant criminal background checks.
33 1. Any dealer in firearms that sells, delivers or otherwise transfers
34 any firearm shall contact the division of state police to conduct a
35 national instant criminal background check pursuant to section two
36 hundred twenty-eight of the executive law.

So what is their contingency plan if NICS says fuck you?
Sorry I assumed you were a man.

 

[CaliberPlus]

So what is their contingency plan if NICS says fuck you?
Sorry I assumed you were a man.

There are so many questions in this piece of crap. I have notations all over my pages. There are contradictions in it all thru it. I truly hope that it helps tear it down.
NP, sometimes I have to remind myself the forum is mainly of bunch of guys, some of them old grumpy guys . Although since this crap got passed I have been really ugly and have to work at not saying very unladylike things!

 

[Saltwater60]

There are so many questions in this piece of crap. I have notations all over my pages. There are contradictions in it all thru it. I truly hope that it helps tear it down.
NP, sometimes I have to remind myself the forum is mainly of bunch of guys, some of them old grumpy guys . Although since this crap got passed I have been really ugly and have to work at not saying very unladylike things!

Who you calling old and grumpy?
Glad to have another female aboard. I think you’re only the second lady on here.

 

[Acer-m14]

So what is their contingency plan if NICS says fuck you?

i think they already did back with the SAFE ACT .. NICS told NY no way ..

 

[Grimscale]

So the FFL no longer contacts NICS on their own when transferring a firearm?
Now they contact NYSP. And I assume NYSP contacts the Feds?

If not, doesn't that make everyone a felon for not properly conducting a NICS check when transferring a firearm?

I'm so confused.

 

[Saltwater60]

So the FFL no longer contacts NICS on their own when transferring a firearm?
Now they contact NYSP. And I assume NYSP contacts the Feds?

If not, doesn't that make everyone a felon for not properly conducting a NICS check when transferring a firearm?

I'm so confused.

And is NYSP keeping a database now of every transfer? What if I buy a legal gun in PA?

 

[ManualF150]

NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process

Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.

www.wgrz.com

 

[Jmac00]

and anyone within 100 miles of a state border will go out of state to buy all the ammo they can carry,

you people need to get out of NY before they put up check points, to get in or out of the state

 

[thughes]

NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process

Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.

www.wgrz.com

"If someone does not have a pistol permit and wants to buy a semi-automatic rifle with the also new 21-year-old age requirement, then they have to go through the permitting process."

Huh? Is this just confusion/wrong information on the reporter's part or is your stupid state requiring people to go through the whole pistol permitting process simply to by a Ruger 10/22?

 

[S&W Fan]

 

[CNYJohn]

Whorchul is like AOC, every time the dumb fuk says something I get dumber
How can a hole be so damn ignorant?

 

[FP1201]

Actually I'm thinking it's not a "22% reduction" but a 22% increase.
Where the fuck do they pull these numbers from?
"I don't need data to protect the citizens of New York"... It's all bullshit to justify their actions.

So the FFL no longer contacts NICS on their own when transferring a firearm?
Now they contact NYSP. And I assume NYSP contacts the Feds?

If not, doesn't that make everyone a felon for not properly conducting a NICS check when transferring a firearm?

I'm so confused.

States satisfying the Check requirements may conduct and subsequently charge for doing so. Florida does so, and I believe New Jersey dose as well.

New York is setting up to conduct NICS Checks for Guns and Ammunition, I just wonder where they're going to get staff, training, software, and computer systems enough to handle the load....California has been trying for a decade and still can't get their shit together.

Off on a tangent: Another Dealer told me yesterday that the reason why Jefferson County can't print the middle name on the Handgun Licenses they issue is the cheap-ass Software they purchased can't do it, seems the State left it up to the Counties to procure what they wanted so long as it met minimum data standards.

 

[FP1201]

"If someone does not have a pistol permit and wants to buy a semi-automatic rifle with the also new 21-year-old age requirement, then they have to go through the permitting process."

Huh? Is this just confusion/wrong information on the reporter's part or is your stupid state requiring people to go through the whole pistol permitting process simply to by a Ruger 10/22?

Yes the State Legislature (NYC/Black Coalition) IS just that stupid, and yes the process to obtain a Licenses to purchase a Semi-automatic Rifle is the same lengthy, intrusive, and expensive process as becoming Licensed to own/carry a Handgun.

So you write your name and ammo lot number on a sheet and walk away with the ammo . No possible way that ammo will ever be used in a crime

The only thing that could possibly be proved is where the box came from should it be discovered... manufactures, wholesalers, distributors, dealers do not mark the ammunition itself nor track where it's shipped, and with Billions of rounds already out there it's not likely there'll ever be a crime solved or lead gathered.
COBIS: 33 Million spent, zero cases solved.

 

[Saltwater60]

NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process

Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.

www.wgrz.com

I did think it was only permitted guns needed a background check for ammo. Maybe they changed it?

 

[prambo]

Absolutely!!!!

ALL gang-bangers and spree killers buy ammo in stores...it's a well known fact!!!

Maybe some will grab up a set of these...