We could cut defense spending by over 90% and still be the top of the heap.
If you want to find lined pockets and complete lack of accountability, look at the military.
Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
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If you want to find lined pockets and complete lack of accountability, look at the military.
Robin
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I'm all for cleaning out the graft in all levels of government. You can pick your nose and get more substance than picking percentages out of thin air. Get rid of the corruption and the trillions thrown at social engineering and we could cut taxes by 90%(nose picking!) and still increase defense spending by 60% ( real booger there) !
Robin E. Newman
Robin E. Newman
Phazer
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Completely appropriate.Yes!
PBS - No need for it any longer, if ever.
NPR - No need for it any longer, if ever.
National Endowment for the Arts - Supporting the arts is not a constitutional power, or responsibility, of the federal government.
Uninformed and Compliant
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You were DELIBERATELY lied to.
MoW gets no more than 3% of it's funding from FedGov, and THAT's via block grant. It's not even a spec on their windshield.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Just waiting for Trump to drop the anti gun bomb, then I can say "I told you so", and go crawl back in the corner.
I don't understand. I guess that corner is going to be occupied by all of us. You voted for him for the same reasons we did.
WAY late in the game, for the same reasons that are popping up now.
Remember how I was pretty much the last one on the Trump train? This is why.
I also pointed out that he is not pro 2A. I got lambasted.
Not cutting and running just yet, but don't be surprised if he isn't quite the engineer that everyone on the Trump train thought he was.
Marine Cpl
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The point is regardless if you were late, we voted for him for the exact reason you did. No matter how it is sliced, even if antigun, it was a better choice then Hillary.
We all saw that from the beginning.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Just remember what the alternative was.
Wrong.
Many voted for him to "strengthen our military (spend more) and build a wall."
I disagree with both.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I have no problem with this. If people want art those people should pay for it. If you watch PBS and want it then pay for it. I don't care for those things so I'm kind of biased to let it slide.
Marine Cpl
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Which was a better alternative than Hillary no matter how you slice it.
Marine Cpl
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I don't have any problem with our government spending extra on the Military.
You want to know what is actually sickening to me.
I'm actually sick that we spend $668,000,000,000 (add in what it costs the states and local governments and it approaches $1 trillion), on WELFARE programs!
I have a REAL problem with lowlifes who get FREE: cell phones, medical, rent, utilities, groceries, the list goes on and on. Yet EVERY TIME there is a new tax, or fee it costs us, and not them. When the fuck do they get to take a bite of this shit sandwich we are forever being fed as productive people of the U.S.?
You want to know what is actually sickening to me.
I'm actually sick that we spend $668,000,000,000 (add in what it costs the states and local governments and it approaches $1 trillion), on WELFARE programs!
I have a REAL problem with lowlifes who get FREE: cell phones, medical, rent, utilities, groceries, the list goes on and on. Yet EVERY TIME there is a new tax, or fee it costs us, and not them. When the fuck do they get to take a bite of this shit sandwich we are forever being fed as productive people of the U.S.?
GuyMontag
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Darth, don't be such a chicken, the sky is hardly falling. Trumps pro-gun and you're chasing moonbeams to think otherwise. The Gorsuch appointment is the SINGLE most important decision Trump has made to date, and ought to have you dancing in the streets. If you vote otherwise, we're left with another anti-gun lesbian with an axe to grind be seated on high court. Lets recap what Trump has accomplished already:
Destroyed the Clintons
Destroyed the Bush Clan
Destroyed McCain and Log Cabin Lindsey
Destroyed TPP (saving what's left of the jobs we haven't shipped to Mexico from being shipped to Asia)
Destroyed the Bible thumping bigots who once controlled and defined the GOP agenda.
Created the "big tent" party that can actually win a national election.
I'm with you on Defense, it's laughable how much we piss away, and HUGE cuts in defense spending are beyond necessary.
Try and keep this in perspective while you're working yourself up over the stupidity of continuing to waste money on Defense, and for the record, walls make for good neighbors.
Nice to see you back Guy.Darth, don't be such a chicken, the sky is hardly falling. Trumps pro-gun and you're chasing moonbeams to think otherwise. The Gorsuch appointment is the SINGLE most important decision Trump has made to date, and ought to have you dancing in the streets. If you vote otherwise, we're left with another anti-gun lesbian with an axe to grind be seated on high court. Lets recap what Trump has accomplished already:
Destroyed the Clintons
Destroyed the Bush Clan
Destroyed McCain and Log Cabin Lindsey
Destroyed TPP (saving what's left of the jobs we haven't shipped to Mexico from being shipped to Asia)
Destroyed the Bible thumping bigots who once controlled and defined the GOP agenda.
Created the "big tent" party that can actually win a national election.
I'm with you on Defense, it's laughable how much we piss away, and HUGE cuts in defense spending are beyond necessary.
Try and keep this in perspective while you're working yourself up over the stupidity of continuing to waste money on Defense, and for the record, walls make for good neighbors.
I will think Trump is pro-gun when he PASSES something pro-gun.
I almost died laughing when you said that he destroyed bible thumpers, being one himself (pandering, but still.)
Trump is a known atheist, but he panders to the point I think it will hurt us.
GuyMontag
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He's delivered on the SCOTUS pick, that's bigger than ANY single piece of gun legislation IMO, but I sure as hell would like to see national reciprocity and the HSA legislation so I can finally get a Can!!
The evangelical act is definitely amusing, but thankfully everyone knows the deal and what's really going on, The Donald isn't about to waste a perfectly good Sunday morning tee time, just to sit in a church pew and pretend to be pious.
The evangelical act is definitely amusing, but thankfully everyone knows the deal and what's really going on, The Donald isn't about to waste a perfectly good Sunday morning tee time, just to sit in a church pew and pretend to be pious.
I think the SCOTUS pick is "just OK", do you have any other info?
I want a "Grand Slam SCOTUS."
(Totally open minded here. Just trying to learn.)
GuyMontag
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Gorsuch is weak on 4th Amendment protections, that's his biggest fault IMO and what concerns me most, but he's an Originalist and doesn't think crayon is an appropriate way to amend the Constitution. I think we both know what kind of Judge would have been appointed if Billary had won, you could kiss your ass goodbye as it relates to the individual right to a firearm, but rest assured that same Judge would readily find constitutional basis for a3rd trimester abortions on the Lunar surface and all satellites beyond our solar system.
Read Neil Gorsuch’s Epic Dissent in a Case Where a 13-Year-Old Was Arrested for Burping in School
This gives me hope, as does his support for Natural Law
Read Neil Gorsuch’s Epic Dissent in a Case Where a 13-Year-Old Was Arrested for Burping in School
This gives me hope, as does his support for Natural Law
I would rather have the government continue to fund the arts and NPR than big agriculture. Growing grain for fuel. We waste much more money on those subsidies than the arts. I don't need to agree with the political commentary to be able to enjoy some of the other programming. I will say when there is actual political debate or an interview with a republican on NPR, it's generally conducted in a respectful fashion.
Dan
Dan
GuyMontag
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Dan, screw Big Ag, Big Pharma, Big Oil and NPR!
We're $200 Trillion+ in debt if we to do an honest accounting, so it's time to stop pretending like we've ANY money whatsoever to piss away, because we don't. Fund it privately, or go away, the well has long past run dry.
We're $200 Trillion+ in debt if we to do an honest accounting, so it's time to stop pretending like we've ANY money whatsoever to piss away, because we don't. Fund it privately, or go away, the well has long past run dry.
While I agree with all the suggested cuts, might I add: cut fucking WELFARE!!!!! That's a huge one!
No one wants to go after the sacred cow. They want to go after social security, and medicare (both of which working people paid for). I'm tired of hearing how it is the "Baby Boomers" fault that SS, and Medicare are going broke. WE worked and paid into it, just as we were supposed to do. The problem became when some fucking geniuses saw all that money sitting there, and decided to "rape" the fund. They decided to start paying lazy fucks who never worked a day in their life with these funds. NOW that we baby boomers are ready to retire, it's become our fault that we are drawing "OUR" money. Let me put it to you this way... I worked 43 years of my life, and paid in for every one of them. It's my fucking money, and I deserve it.
Like I said... CUT FUCKING WELFARE PROGRAMS.
No one wants to go after the sacred cow. They want to go after social security, and medicare (both of which working people paid for). I'm tired of hearing how it is the "Baby Boomers" fault that SS, and Medicare are going broke. WE worked and paid into it, just as we were supposed to do. The problem became when some fucking geniuses saw all that money sitting there, and decided to "rape" the fund. They decided to start paying lazy fucks who never worked a day in their life with these funds. NOW that we baby boomers are ready to retire, it's become our fault that we are drawing "OUR" money. Let me put it to you this way... I worked 43 years of my life, and paid in for every one of them. It's my fucking money, and I deserve it.
Like I said... CUT FUCKING WELFARE PROGRAMS.
First, Meals on Wheels gets very little funding from the government. Seniors should have been wiser in their younger years. I am no more for welfare for the old than for the rest of the leeches of the "Free" society. Too much of our money goes for those who cannot care for themselves.
Darth, don't be such a chicken, the sky is hardly falling. Trumps pro-gun and you're chasing moonbeams to think otherwise. The Gorsuch appointment is the SINGLE most important decision Trump has made to date, and ought to have you dancing in the streets. If you vote otherwise, we're left with another anti-gun lesbian with an axe to grind be seated on high court. Lets recap what Trump has accomplished already:
Destroyed the Clintons
Destroyed the Bush Clan
Destroyed McCain and Log Cabin Lindsey
Destroyed TPP (saving what's left of the jobs we haven't shipped to Mexico from being shipped to Asia)
Destroyed the Bible thumping bigots who once controlled and defined the GOP agenda.
Created the "big tent" party that can actually win a national election.
I'm with you on Defense, it's laughable how much we piss away, and HUGE cuts in defense spending are beyond necessary.
Try and keep this in perspective while you're working yourself up over the stupidity of continuing to waste money on Defense, and for the record, walls make for good neighbors.
First off, glad to see you up and running. Hope all is well with you.
Gorsuch was an awesome choice, not just for the 2A, bit for the majority of our Founding Documents. He will make a great justice.
So far, Mr. Trump has done nothing to cause me to lose faith in him. Nothing at all. He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. If he did not one more thing, he would go down in my book as a successful president. As Guy stated, he has done so very much already.
As for the Military spending; I spent 25 years in the Army, I saw nearly everyday the massive waste in spending. We could actually cut the overall military by a large percentage and loose nothing in regards to the fighting force. The waste is beyond massive. I would like to see a 20% in every single agency in our Government. I would like to see all funding to groups like those mentioned in the OP to cease as soon as possible. I do not care about PBS, the Arts or the other crap that they spend my money on. If people want PBS, let them donate from their own bank accounts! If not, let them disappear like a fart in the wind.
This is why yourself, TS, and I, were in agreement @ the other place.
I sympathize but imagine how much more effective charity would be if the funds didn't have to go through the Feds and multiple grafting organizations.
We used to have Community Chests and other locally controlled charities so that we actually knew who was deserving of more help or less. I want those guys to get more and the bums to get less.
spat
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To be safe, you need more than the top of the heap, you need to so outclass everyone else that they know its foolish to try anything.
Even as much as we outclass everyone now you get some who think "well, they're just a paper tiger, in a real fight we could take them"
World politics is a prison yard. Its not enough to be the biggest guy, some guy will always want to challenge the biggest guy. You need to be so much bigger that even the idea of even challenging you is terrifying.
If the world UFC champion went to prison, people would pick fights with him all the time (and lose badly). If you really want to avoid fights, you've got to be the incredible hulk, a 12' tall 1000lb green monster in world of normal humans.
We spend more money on keeping Banana Republic dictators flush with whores and military equipment than we do on the arts. One can always turn the radio off if the program gets politically offensive. I've done it. I believe it's important for our nation to support the arts even when most of the folks running the programs don't necessarily support conservative politics. The US should support culture. Music, dance, art, etc.
Just my opinion.
Dan
Just my opinion.
Dan
I am hoping trump gets to replace 3 liberal (includes Kennedy) justices in his term as president. That would leave the two Obama appointees and flip flop Roberts to contend with.
The left leaning liberals who have millions made in Hollywood and silicon valley could open their check books and fund it if they so choose.
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We are a paper tiger, the lack of stomach for casualties (on either side) in the population and lack of backbone in our political system has every 2 bit dictator and wannabe mayrter willing to take us on to see if they can land a blow.