I do that when I think both candiates are equally harmful. Which is often
Trump issues memo to ban bump stocks
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
This.
Most people are too blind to realize that. They only think one step at a time instead of 5 moves ahead.
They play checkers instead of chess.
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Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Did I want Trump originally? No.
Am I glad Hillary isn't president? Yes.
Am I glad Hillary isn't president? Yes.
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Once again you've injected a non-sequitur into the discussion, WHY??
I don't make the mistake of believing the GOP or the Dems truly is ever on my side, but I do know one is FAR more capable of hurting my interests than the other, and has an extensive track record for doing it. Typically you don't vote for what you're going to get, you vote to PREVENT the other party from inflicting upon your interests.
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libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
This.
Most people are too blind to realize that. They only think one step at a time instead of 5 moves ahead.
They play checkers instead of chess.
No.
When Perot re-entered the race, Bush's polling numbers didn't go down more than Clinton's. Exit polling showed that about half of Perot voters would probably have stayed home if they didn't vote for him. Of the remaining half, they were pretty evenly split between Clinton and Bush. Perot didn't cost Bush the election. No way Bush makes up the 102 electoral votes necessary to beat Clinton.
GuyMontag
.44 mag
NF, Perot voters were decidedly Republican in party identification, 2:1 . Respectfully, you're mistaken on that point. Perot didn't win nearly 20% of the popular vote without having a major impact on the election results. I'm familiar with the argument you've suggested regarding electorals, but haven't seen any real data that truly supports that theory. One thing is without question, Perot's candidacy taught most Republicans to think long and hard before ever voting for another 3rd party candidate, Dem defections aren't anywhere near as prevalent come election day.
Well, that is perfectly rational.
I just hear too many people who don't vote for very good candidates, just because the candidate does not reflect their viewPOINT 100%.
In Mass we're going to have a vote on the Governor soon.
For the first time ever, I believe I will blank the ballot for that office.
Republican Governor Charlie Baker is actually WORSE than the useless former Governor Democrat Deval Patrick.
A significant number of those Republicans were going to stay home. The economy was doing terrible, and unemployment was just under 8% during the summer of '92. For reference, during the recession 10 years ago, unemployment spiked around 10%. Bush's approval rate was in the 30s for most of the year before the election. It was at 29% at the end of September. He wasn't even doing all that well within his own party. The public didn't think he was doing a good job.
There is no way that 66% of Perot's voters would have went to the polls AND voted for Bush if it was a 2 party election. Exit polls showed that 38% of Perot voters would have voted for Bush and 38% of voters would have voted for Clinton as a second choice. Even after Perot dropped out of the race earlier in 92, Clinton never trailed Bush in polling. The Gallup polling wasn't even all that close. In those polls, the closest Bush ever came to Clinton was 9 points (and the furthest was 25).
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
I think you're partly right, that he doesn't care, personally. Where I think he does care is in the political and personality ring. He seems to be very bothered by people not 'liking' him, and I'm sure a lot of his initial statements stem from him saying what he thinks people want to hear. He has no impulse control. Wait a few days until some Republicans have a little heart-to-heart with him. Then he'll be pro 2A again.
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
I do like Good & Plenty, but Mike & Ike's are better. Hubby keeps them in the glove compartment of the old Islander, and he shares them with the kids on off-road drives.
That does not exactly endear the man to me. But I knew he was a demagogue when I voted for him. Really what I did was vote against hillary.
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If anything that is more reason to not trust him, polls drop a little more let's say what then AW weapons ban that he is fond of? Why cause he has no impulse control?
..........Don't thy get all stale and gross after awhile?
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
Nah. Those things'll still be good 100 years from now. Like dried pasta.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
96coal449
.308 Win
I didn't log in yesterday, so I missed a lot. I needed a break and logged into a different forum for a bit. Same old fukin BS there. I didn't stay logged in for long. But I remembered a member mentioning Trumps commitment. Something to the words of ...... for every gun law he makes he'll abolish 3.
Now if he passes the BS ban then I'd be happy with:
1 repeal the NFA act of 1934
2 Ban all state wide AW bans
For the hell of it I'll add third.
3 ____________ you guys take a stab. I got a couple more .......
But just the first 2 ...would solve everything. No. 1 brings back common use.
Let's hope he's still a sly fox ...... at least let me hope for a little longer .... while I continue to fight.
I try to plant one seed a day ....to wake up the sheeple.
Someone had a post somewhere about NYers being pussies. Little does he know of how the Safeact was brought before us.
I will not be a pussy. I will be joining my local militia this spring. I will be prepping along the way. I am awake.
Keep planting seeds. The younger the mind the better.
Now if he passes the BS ban then I'd be happy with:
1 repeal the NFA act of 1934
2 Ban all state wide AW bans
For the hell of it I'll add third.
3 ____________ you guys take a stab. I got a couple more .......
But just the first 2 ...would solve everything. No. 1 brings back common use.
Let's hope he's still a sly fox ...... at least let me hope for a little longer .... while I continue to fight.
I try to plant one seed a day ....to wake up the sheeple.
Someone had a post somewhere about NYers being pussies. Little does he know of how the Safeact was brought before us.
I will not be a pussy. I will be joining my local militia this spring. I will be prepping along the way. I am awake.
Keep planting seeds. The younger the mind the better.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I don't think he made the "For every one I'll get rid of three" statement in relation to firearms. IIRC that was for environmental/business regulations.
Nice thought though.
96coal449
.308 Win
AHHHH FFUCKKK ruined my fuckin day now I gotta go out push this fuckin heavy white shit around TOO?!?!
I gotta go .... be back latter.
I gotta go .... be back latter.
Brown grass and rain in Erie PA.
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
My level of disgust and frustration is through the roof to the point where it's affecting my mood.
Im going to keep sending emails to politicians and trying to educate some centists. And ill hope that nothing actually happens from all this.
Republicans need to be careful as its an election year. But still, im really disheartened by Trump saying what he has said, but Ill reserve final judgement until in see ACTION on his words.
Im going to keep sending emails to politicians and trying to educate some centists. And ill hope that nothing actually happens from all this.
Republicans need to be careful as its an election year. But still, im really disheartened by Trump saying what he has said, but Ill reserve final judgement until in see ACTION on his words.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I read that article and it's a little misleading in that it's basically an opinion on what could happen if things go a certain direction.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Trump also reiterated his point on arming teachers by suggesting bonuses for any teacher that wants to carry.
President Trump Proposes Bonuses for Armed Teachers
This is why I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what finally happens. In one tweet he's talking about restricting the Second Amendment and in another Tweet hes talking about strengthening it. This makes me think he's playing chess with the left.
President Trump Proposes Bonuses for Armed Teachers
This is why I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what finally happens. In one tweet he's talking about restricting the Second Amendment and in another Tweet hes talking about strengthening it. This makes me think he's playing chess with the left.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I want teachers that are willing, and get the training to carry bonus or not.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
The left would rather they just jumped in front of the bullets. It's less off putting than allowing a qualified person to carry.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Of course they would, because if teachers were armed Not only would have provide a deterrent effect but it could provide real-world security. That means there will be less school shootings, that means their media puppets make less money by running their narrative, and the left will have less control over the population and not get to push their anti-gun agenda.