That's my point. Finish it off. Make it national period forever, you like the 2A says.
Trump vows to sign CCW reciprocity bill.
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That's my point. Finish it off. Make it national period forever, you like the 2A says.
Next up, I will be watching to see if the case Wilson v Hawaii gets granted Cert on Tuesday when the next SCOTUS Order List comes out. As I understand it, that case has the potential to outright throw out all handgun restrictions and permits nationwide.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Now we will learn if Mike Johnson is a RINO like Ryan.
ManualF150
.308 Win
It would be a start in the right direction.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
If they tied national reciprocity to the gravy train, it would get interesting quick.
Imagine NY, CA, MA, or NJ 's reaction if they passed a law saying states who didn't recognize each other 's CCW laws weren't eligible for federal law enforcement/highway/education/etc. funding.
I don't think Congress has the balls to pass this or any reciprocity bill, unfortunately.
Imagine NY, CA, MA, or NJ 's reaction if they passed a law saying states who didn't recognize each other 's CCW laws weren't eligible for federal law enforcement/highway/education/etc. funding.
I don't think Congress has the balls to pass this or any reciprocity bill, unfortunately.
spat
.950 JDJ
Good, let the states spend all their resources fighting that unwinnable battle.
Then press the advantage against them for other stuff.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Flip the script.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
not to mention, there are people in jail ( in NY ) for doing nothing more than carrying or possessing a EMPTY 30 round magazine.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Still going to need 60 votes to get it out of committee in the Senate, for a floor vote. That means 6 or 7 Democrats are going to need to vote for it.
And then there is the Filibuster...
And then there is the Filibuster...
SCOTUS needs to start reaching out to heads of respective State Police departments and order them to take into custody any Governor who willfully violates any constitutional right and SCOTUS decision that sets legal precedent supporting said constitutional right.
This is the way.
This WILL happen.
I believe Donald John Trump is done playing footsie with the Communist Globalists.
He will stomp on their toes whenever possible.
I believe Donald John Trump is done playing footsie with the Communist Globalists.
He will stomp on their toes whenever possible.
Air ignores state boundaries as does water.
Certain things like self defense does not respect stte boundaries nor do Remington 700's.
Criminals already have nation wide handgun reciprocity.................why not us?
It is so childish and deranged, that communism rules our lives in this Republic.
Rights not held by the Fed Government and not delegated to the states, are held by the people, such as the right to self defense.
Certain things like self defense does not respect stte boundaries nor do Remington 700's.
Criminals already have nation wide handgun reciprocity.................why not us?
It is so childish and deranged, that communism rules our lives in this Republic.
Rights not held by the Fed Government and not delegated to the states, are held by the people, such as the right to self defense.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
That's what the US Marshals are for
spat
.950 JDJ
US Marshall's would be the ones to take someone into custody for contempt of federal court I think.
Either that or SCOTUS does have a very small law enforcement group of it's own.
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
Only problem is that local enforcement will complain that they will have no way of verifying pistol permits, this will lead to the introduction of a national carry database. Is a national carry database worth national reciprocity to you? Will this result in the federalization of pistol permits just like they do for passports for ID? Will a national federal carry license override the local state pistol permit process? Is this a good or bad idea?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Database already exists and if it’s simply like a drivers license I would put up with my name being in a database that I have a pistol permit. It’s already done by people I fear more.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
PERMITS = PERMISSION .... NOT A RIGHT ..
Dear President Trump AGAIN... ;
I shall bring to your attention that BAD GUYS DO NOT GET PERMISSION ( Permits ) .
Since BAD GUYS already have Pistols, Your National Reciprocity is BullShit and just a Feel Good I did something.
What you Want Sir is Constitutional Carry .. no body needs PERMISSION (permits) ..
Now were are all even with our RIGHTS intact .
Dear President Trump AGAIN... ;
I shall bring to your attention that BAD GUYS DO NOT GET PERMISSION ( Permits ) .
Since BAD GUYS already have Pistols, Your National Reciprocity is BullShit and just a Feel Good I did something.
What you Want Sir is Constitutional Carry .. no body needs PERMISSION (permits) ..
Now were are all even with our RIGHTS intact .
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Would that be like national registration(?), central planning? It would be far better that local government honored the Bill of Rights and their feet held to the fire if they don't. Pie in the sky nut thats the way it should be.
Robin
Robin
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Never going to happen. Bunch of talking heads on YouTube excited about it, but I'm positive the Senate won't touch it. They wouldn't last time Republicans had control. Trump saying he'd sign it means nothing if it's not drafted and put in front of him.
byron
.308 Win
S.214 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2023
ManualF150
.308 Win
The way I look at it is the fact that NYS has us by the balls right now with the Ammo BGC. So even if they do allow some kind of Constitutional Carry, they could make it even more difficult to purchase (or step it up further) and make ammo. Maybe even do an ammo license/permit scheme.
Nothing in the Constitution states anything about ammo, just guns; right to be armed.
Nothing in the Constitution states anything about ammo, just guns; right to be armed.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It'll be fun to watch the totalitarian leftist states rely on federalism in the 10th amendment to challenge such a move.
That said, I do think that there are 10th amendment issues here. But, IANAL.
That said, I do think that there are 10th amendment issues here. But, IANAL.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
"Arms." Anything that can be used for offense or defense can be defined as arms. This has been legally accepted. So, we do have a right to ammunition.
mgunner
.45 acp
I hope that the he does something about the $300.00/year handgun permit scam for those in NYC and Boroughs. People are struggling to pay rent, for food etc. Why should they have to pay their local police department to have access to a right? Many can't afford that $300/year. It cost less to register a car for several years than it does to have access to a constitutional right? It's a blatant obstruction.
This is not true, unless I am reading this wrong.
To send a bill to the President to be signed, a simple majority vote is needed in both the House of Representatives (218 votes out of 435) and the Senate (51 votes out of 100) to pass the bill.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Nortaroga is correct.
Senate rules require 60 votes on legislation to end debate. Once debate has ended, after the cloture vote, the question can be called and a simple majority wins.
Harry Reid famously threw out the filibuster rule for judicial appointments. McConnell then threw it out for Supreme Court appointments.
That's a valid question, one without a simple answer, and answers with multiple implications: The Second Amendment doesn't require a licenses or registration, however having all States subscribe to an accessible data base to show a valid Licenses or not, the same way Drivers Licenses are treated...I suppose that if the Law of the Land were reset to the simple, basic meaning of the Second, then it would be an all or nothing point, but as it stands now I'd be happy with another endorsement on my Drivers Licenses as indicates I can carry a weapon in any State with the Freedom and assurance of my own home State.