Trump will sign spending bill and declare a national emergency, Mitch McConnell says

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tirwin1 said:
Declaring an emergency is a bad precedent. Democrats are already making comments about how they might declare emergencies so they can get their anti-gun or pro-global warming desires funded. An incredibly short sighted move by Trump. The republicans had both houses of congress for two years. If they couldn't get funding for the wall then there is no way they were going to succeed with the democrats controlling the house. Trump was better off taking his lumps and using this issue against the democrats in 2020. Sooner or later there will be a democrat in the white house and giving this power to them will surely be a mistake.
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Pelosi is going to use extortion to prevent Pres. Trump from building the wall. if the DemocRATs want a real problem, I double dog dare them declare the 2A a national emergency. If they do, IT WILL BE AN NATIONAL EMERGENCY 10 minutes after democRATs try to pass any stupid laws
 
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If you look at the resources our country spends on illegal aliens - welfare, law enforcement, war on drugs, etc. - it looks a lot more like an emergency.
 
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kev74 said:
If you look at the resources our country spends on illegal aliens - welfare, law enforcement, war on drugs, etc. - it looks a lot more like an emergency.
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So if all this was an "emergency" why did they blow through two full years of white house and congressional dominance doing nothing about it?

I would remind you that Cuomo was governer for two years and did no gun control and then passed the crap act because it was suddenly "an emergency."
 
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An invasion of this magnitude certainly qualifies as an emergency imo.
Only those in favor of open borders, for all the nefarious reasons discussed would oppose.
 
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Darth said:
Boy, if you guys don't see the problem with this, that's frightening.
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Darth,

What problem? Cheap Politics in the way of national security? We have seen that before and we have also seen politicians
using the message of necessity to get their way. I say get what you want however you can because this shit
is not going to end any time soon.

Last year I flew with a land owner who has a ranch in the border with Mexico. He told me one morning he went for a walk
and his dog stopped at the curve in one of the roads and they found 7 severed heads w/o the bodies.
Imagine the situation in your own home? Police, border patrol, investigations, etc... This happens every freaking day to honest
hardworking Americans and also to innocent Mexicans who are deceived and might pay with their lives.
The very same people the clueless liberal goons they claim to protect by lightening security.
He said those were most likely illegals who were crossing and got into some sort of dispute with the coyotes or cartel.

Bottom line only the south border and near states should decide. There is an invasion and congress is not doing anything.
Why chicago, Seattle or NY need to have a saying on this when there is no emergency for them?

I see a huge problem with cheap politics while people are suffering and dying. What these big liberal suburban areas
are doing to their own country is unethical and inhumane. They should let the people who need it the most decide.
Those large metropolitan brainwashed areas should not have so much influenced in the entire territory.

They behave like two wolves and one sheep deciding whats for dinner.

Small communities in coordination with the executives should be able to decide w/o big brother needed for show time politics.
Why do we have home land security if we do not let them do their fvcking work?... and yes, that might include a fvcking wall.

I don't see a wall any different than any other instrument that helps stop the invasion.
I have been all over both for vacation and work and in most countries if you do what people do here you land in huge
trouble, that if they do not shoot you on the spot for trying to cross illegally.
And I am not talking about saudi arabia or pakistan or tunkbantu but many republics with mature democracies.

Come on Darth. They will hate the president no matter what he does.

THIS IS YOUR DONALD-CARE PACKAGE.
WE HAVE TO BUILD IT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.

ps: unlike Obamacare, this will actually be a good investment in the long run.
 
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Steal2B said:
Only said the left has no moral framework ... working only towards some distorted self interest and there is no connection to whatever Trump does.
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They do not even have a distorted plan. Whatever the conservatives want, they want the opposite.

Maybe Trump should say, we need to demolish the wall .... then the demorats will come united to build the biggest wall ever seen.

Their policy can be summarized with one simple formula:

Democrats Policy = Whatever Trump Wants * -1
 
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Nov 14, 1979: The National Emergency With Respect to Iran, in response to the Iran hostage crisis.

President Bill Clinton

Nov 14, 1994: The National Emergency With Respect to the Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction, that combined two previous national emergencies focused on weapons of mass destruction.

Jan. 2, 1995: The National Emergency With Respect to Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process placed economic sanctions in response to the Jerusalem bombing.

March 15, 1995: The National Emergency With Respect to Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources was an effort to prevent potential deals between oil companies.

October 21, 1995: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers Centered in Colombia was declared after increased reports of drug cartels laundering money through American companies.

March 1, 1996: The National Emergency With Respect to Regulations of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels with Respect to Cuba was after civilian planes were shot down near Cuba

November 3, 1997: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan implemented economic and trade sanctions.

President George W. Bush

June 26, 2001: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Who Threaten International Stabilization Efforts in the Western Balkans imposed sanctions on those aiding Albanian insurgents in Macedonia

Aug 17, 2001: The National Emergency With Respect to Export Control Regulations renewed presidential power to control exports in a national emergency since the Export Administration Act of 1979 lapsed.

Sept 14, 2001: The National Emergency with Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks was in response to the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.

Sept 23, 2001: The National Emergency With Respect to Persons who Commit, Threaten to Commit, or Support Terrorism was in response to the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

March 6, 2003: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe was an effort to punish associates of Robert Mugabe.

May 22, 2003: The National Emergency With Respect to Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq has an Interest was issued following the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

May 11, 2004: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons and Prohibiting the Export of Certain Goods to Syria was in response to Syria supporting terrorist activity in Iraq.

June 16, 2006: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus was in response to charges of fraud in the Belarus presidential election.

Oct 27, 2006: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo was in response to violence around the Congolese presidential election runoff.

Aug 1, 2007: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of Lebanon was in response to a breakdown of the rule of law in Lebanon.

June 26, 2008: The National Emergency With Respect to Continuing Certain Restrictions with Respect to North Korea cited the risk of proliferation of weapons-usable fissile material. President Trump renewed this June 22, 2018 citing the “existence and risk of proliferation of weapons-usable fissile material on the Korean Peninsula and the actions and policies of the Government of North Korea continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat.”

President Barack Obama
April 12, 2010: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia was in respect to threats posed by Somali pirates.

February 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya froze the assets of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).

May 16, 2012: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen addressed political unrest within the Yemen government.

March 16, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine was in response to the Russian invasion of Crimea.

April 3, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan was in response to the ongoing civil war.

May 12, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic was in response to violence towards humanitarian aid workers.

March 8, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela was in response to human rights violations.

April 1, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities was in response to Chinese cyber attacks on the U.S.

Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.

President Donald Trump

Dec 20, 2017: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption imposed sanctions on the Myanmar general for his role persecuting Rohingya Muslims.

Sept 12, 2018: The National Emergency With Respect to Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election attempted to prevent any meddling with the 2018 midterm elections amid the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Nov 27, 2018: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Nicaragua was declared by President Trump in response to violence and the Ortega regime’s “systematic dismantling and undermining of democratic institutions and the rule of law” that constitutes an “unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.”
 
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BDinPutnam said:
So Trump should just do whatever.

Ok, got it, no moral framework exists anymore.
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A moral framework hasn’t existed for awhile now. The Dems trample on the constitution day in and day out, have for awhile. The right plays by the rules while the left flips the board. Why continue to hamstring ourselves? Keep waiting and the demographic shift will make it mathematically impossible to fix this country through electoral means
 
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MadScientist said:
A moral framework hasn’t existed for awhile now. The Dems trample on the constitution day in and day out, have for awhile. The right plays by the rules while the left flips the board. Why continue to hamstring ourselves? Keep waiting and the demographic shift will make it mathematically impossible to fix this country through electoral means
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Are you inside my brain!?

Literally word for word that is my exact reasoning why I strongly support this. I actually came here to type exactly this what you beat me to say.
 
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"Hillary Clinton raped a baby to get what she wanted, and we never get what we want because we are too decorus to rape babies. Therefore, we should rape babies."
 
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The constitution has been raped so many times that a review for legal framework should be in order
but not just framing recent events but things that are a lot more serious and disturbing that the establishment have been dooing for the last 30 years.
An ethical exercise will yield not fruits w/o civilized people around. So I have zero hope for that with the current thugs in government.
There are some good politicians but not really that many left.

What about the patriot act? Your friend Dick literally pissed all over her. you had people that either resigned from the DOJ or they were dismissed.
What about your friend Obanana authorizing operations that resulted in the assassination of US citizens?

This is so disturbing that we all push it away like if it was fiction. The problem, it is not.
This was the reporter who risk his life. Some might say a bit liberal guy but in the end a true jourlalist who reported what he saw.
Why this investigative report didn't win the Oscar is not well understood. But we all know why. It is so thorough but at the same time so disturbing that
the elites wanted to minimize it and hide it. Too many skeletons to take out of the closet I guess.


I do believe the border crisis is a true emergency. Take a trip to those border towns and find out.

Or otherwise explain why is not.
 
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BDinPutnam said:
"Hillary Clinton raped a baby to get what she wanted, and we never get what we want because we are too decorus to rape babies. Therefore, we should rape babies."
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It's more like we're in a gunfight in a house that's on fire, and people are worried about stray bullets damaging the drywall.
 
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BDinPutnam said:
"Hillary Clinton raped a baby to get what she wanted, and we never get what we want because we are too decorus to rape babies. Therefore, we should rape babies."
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Who are these babies you are talking about?

Seriously, there is a true crisis at the border. It is very simple. If the Chinese were landing on Malibu beach our troops will be there in no time right?

We are under siege.
 
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