Trump's "listening session" on guns, not what the grabbers expected

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GuyMontag said:
Right now, he's framing this issue on terms we all understand and prefer, MUST SEE

Conceal carry, armed teachers, this isn't going as the Grabbers would have preferred, Trumps advocating strongly so far.
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But, from everything I read here yesterday, Mr. Trump is anti-2A.

I am really confused these days.
 
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I love how this bullshit..
Mark Barden, whose son was killed in Sandy Hook, opposed the idea of armed teachers, citing his wife who was a teacher.

“Nobody wants a shootout in a school,” Barden said.
You dumb fuck! "Nobody wants a shootout in a school"....at the point someone walks in and starts shooting, you have a fucking shootout whether you want it or not!!! Only you obviously prefer that innocents can't shoot back. The blood is on your hands asshole!
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
He seems somewhere between pro gun to politician status quo.



Imagine if Hillary was in office right now. Her pen would have run out of ink from all her executive orders, and the far left circuit courts would be supporting her.
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Yeah but but but I have to vote with my heart. I still want to pencil in Ronald Reagan.
 
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ArmedCorgi said:
I love how this bullshit..
Mark Barden, whose son was killed in Sandy Hook, opposed the idea of armed teachers, citing his wife who was a teacher.

“Nobody wants a shootout in a school,” Barden said.
You dumb fuck! "Nobody wants a shootout in a school"....at the point someone walks in and starts shooting, you have a fucking shootout whether you want it or not!!! Only you obviously prefer that innocents can't shoot back. The blood is on your hands asshole!
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Everyone can agree, no one wants a shootout in a school.

But a shootout indicates there was an exchange between 2 sides.

What we have had recently are frigging massacres where innocent helpless victims are slaughtered.

Shootouts are bad. No one wants them. But give people a chance.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Everyone can agree, no one wants a shootout in a school.

But a shootout indicates there was an exchange between 2 sides.

What we have had recently are frigging massacres where innocent helpless victims are slaughtered.

Shootouts are bad. No one wants them. But give people a chance.
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Semantics. The guy clearly doesn't want teachers fighting back. He wants victim status.
 
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Podmonkey said:
Oh, the guy that killed foreign "AW" imports? I might have the chance to own a modernized version of the K2 right now if not for that bs.
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It was just a random name I used. I didn't want to use Paul's name and single you out or else you'd kick my ass.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I was agreeing with you, don't take it the wrong way :)
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I know, lol. @Drinkthekoolaid I should have said something more like, "No, obviously no one wants a shootout in a school, but when someone barges in and start shooting the place up, what choice do you have? You are in a fight for your life whether you wanted one or not. No need to just lay down and die."
 
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Trump pledges to 'strongly' consider concealed carry in schools
President Trump floated the idea of arming teachers in an effort to prevent future school shootings during a listening session on school shootings at the White House on Wednesday.

"If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly, and the good thing about a suggestion like that -- and we're going to be looking at it very strongly, and I think a lot of people are going to be opposed to it. I think a lot of people are going to like it. But the good thing is you're going to have a lot of [armed] people with that," the president said.

He said the "coach," presumably meaning athletic director Chris Hixon, who was killed during the Florida shooting last week, "saved a lot of lives" but could have saved more if he had a gun.

"He wouldn't have had to run, he would have shot, and that would have been the end of it," he said, adding that he only supported concealed carry for people "adept" with guns.
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livingston said:
Trump pledges to 'strongly' consider concealed carry in schools
President Trump floated the idea of arming teachers in an effort to prevent future school shootings during a listening session on school shootings at the White House on Wednesday.

"If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly, and the good thing about a suggestion like that -- and we're going to be looking at it very strongly, and I think a lot of people are going to be opposed to it. I think a lot of people are going to like it. But the good thing is you're going to have a lot of [armed] people with that," the president said.

He said the "coach," presumably meaning athletic director Chris Hixon, who was killed during the Florida shooting last week, "saved a lot of lives" but could have saved more if he had a gun.

"He wouldn't have had to run, he would have shot, and that would have been the end of it," he said, adding that he only supported concealed carry for people "adept" with guns.
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This is the reality. People need to stop viewing the idea of allowing qualified teachers to carry for protection of the children as grotesque and wake up and realize just how much more grotesque their idea of gun free zones are. So far the gun free zone is the idea with a failing track record.....almost as if it was set up that way.
 
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Podmonkey said:
Ron Paul was the guy, the one that would have run the country the way it is supposed to be run. A true Libertarian. Never had even a look at it.
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He would have never beat anybody, everyone hates libertarians.
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Ron Paul never had a chance. Wanna know why? Cause Libertarians stand for nothing. They cannot make a decision to save their life.

Thankfully, we will never have one of those people in the President's chair!
 
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Thankfully, we will never gave one of those people in the President's chair!
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Trump on preventing mass shootings: 'we're going to get it done'

Trump on preventing mass shooting
President Trump said Wednesday the administration is going to strengthen background checks for gun purchases and “put a strong emphasis on mental health,” as he promised students and families “we are going to get it done.”



The president, Vice President Mike Pence and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos hosted students, teachers and families affected by the Parkland high school shooting for a "listening session" at the White House Wednesday, which lasted close to two hours.
gs: 'we're going to get it done'

“We are going to be very strong on background checks, and put a very strong emphasis on the mental health of somebody,” Trump said at the beginning of the listening session. “We’re going to talk and get it done. It’s been going on too long, too many instances and we’re going to get it done.”

The president has also signaled a willingness to raise the minimum age for purchasing certain firearms in the wake of last week’s school shooting in Parkland.

A White House source told Fox News Wednesday that Trump is open to a number of measures to address mass shootings, including the rise in minimum age – a proposal that could face massive resistance from gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association.

Under current federal law, licensed firearm dealers cannot sell handguns to people under 21 and cannot sell long guns to people under 18, according to the Giffords Law Center, which tracks gun laws and advocates for more restrictions. Some states already impose laws with tighter minimum age requirements.

It is unclear, however, whether Trump will push for a change in federal law, or encourage a change at the state level.
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I'll throw this out there....


Unless we as a Nation are ready to completely revamp ALL that we do and know, violence will never go away. These types of shootings will continue, shootings in the inner city will continue and honest, good people will be gunned down in the streets.

No one thing will end this.

Americans are NOT willing to do all that needs to be done.

I know I am not willing!
 
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Podmonkey said:
Reagan killed a few things though, did he not?
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As in all things political, compromise is a requirement. Nobody gets everything they want, but most everyone gets something. Reagan signed the FOPA. We got fair interstate transportation of our personal firearms, they got a ban on the future sale and purchase of new NFA full auto weapons.

Edit: and oh yeh revision and overhaul of the GCA '68, due to BATF abuses
 
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