Here is my contribution for the day
US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
- Thread starter TEOTWAWKI inc.
- Start date
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Who has control of the skies over Iran... All reports point to Israel ... Perhaps you can find some to contradict this ... If so post them . At this point there is nothing to dispute who is winning this war at this point in time.
Israel has the advantage of a surprise attack. It may or may not ho!d.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Rumors on the webs are that the US is entering the war soon
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
- President Donald Trump on Monday urged everyone to immediately evacuate Tehran, and reiterated that Iran should have signed a nuclear deal with the United States.
I would say theres at least a coin flip chance and I don't love it.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Trump is leaving G7 a day early, to return to DC for "important matters"...
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Shits going down, Pentagon pizza index just went crazy again
spat
.700 Nitro Express
When half the Iranian airforce has been destroyed, it's going to be hard to flip that back.
Isreal massively outclassed Iran in the air when they still had their whole airforce. They're not making that back anytime soon.
Plus, it's not like they're buying any new F4s or F14s to replace their losses.
And I'm not sure Russia is selling many Migs right now either, they need all they can get themselves.
Based on Trump's latest tweet telling everyone to leave Tehran immediately and Iran should have listened......
Yea I think shits about to go down. It's definitely not a coincidence that 25+ tankers simultaneously left conus over the Atlantic.....
I think the next level of escalation is about to happen.
Yea I think shits about to go down. It's definitely not a coincidence that 25+ tankers simultaneously left conus over the Atlantic.....
I think the next level of escalation is about to happen.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
How much escalation .. Drop the bunker bombs and that's it ?
Iran isn't going to just allow us to bomb them with no recourse.
They will retaliate. They will need to save face.
When they retaliate and kill Americans or destroy American bases or resources, we will then in turn retaliate to their retaliation and so on.
Nothing good is coming from this.
Rumors that china/Pakistan/Russia sending aid to Iran right now to restock their missiles and provide aid. Pakistan already said they will put Iran under their nuclear umbrella and all Muslim nations should unite.
Shits escalating rapidly
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
How the Israel-Iran war may develop
If Iran is losing a conventional conflict, there is a danger that it will resort to unconventional means of retaliationIsrael certainly has achieved rapid and spectacular early successes in this conflict. But taking out Iran’s dispersed nuclear programme, much of it underground, is much more complicated than destroying targets on the ground.
In Washington and Brussels there are concerns that if the Iranian regime is cornered it might lash out in desperation.
In the recent past, the US has accused Iran of having covert biological and chemical weapons programmes. If those fears are correct, Tehran may have the means of striking back at Israeli or American targets in a deadly but deniable fashion.
The International Atomic Energy Agency has also stated that Iran has a considerable stockpile of uranium that is enriched to 60 per cent. It is generally believed that Tehran would need to get to 90 per cent enrichment to make a nuclear weapon. This could be done within days — although weaponisation would take much longer.
Reports of 3 ships on fire in strait of Hormuz
www.hindustantimes.com
Might be why Trump deciding to directly get involved??
Gulf of Oman: Ships on fire near Strait of Hormuz amid Israel-Iran conflict? Photos emerge
Several social media users cited photos to claim that three ships were on fire in the Gulf of Oman, near the Strait of Hormuz
Might be why Trump deciding to directly get involved??
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
I heard on a couple of different podcasts that has been debunked.
IDK what the truth is, I'm just saying.
I have not seen any proof of Pakistani leadership taking that stance.
Like a video or some sort of public statement. Maybe I missed it.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
You seem to think they have a say in this.
They have about as much say as Afghanistan and Iraq did 20 years ago.
And you are mistaken about the Pakistan thing.
*Iran* said that Pakistan should do that. I suspect Pakistan is a lot less enthusiastic about starting shit with the US than Iran.
Depick
.308 Win
Watching Trump on the news at the moment. The man looks highly agitated.
“Iran should’ve taken the deal”
Gave me chills.
He is not the man to speak in that manner and not deliver.
“Iran should’ve taken the deal”
Gave me chills.
He is not the man to speak in that manner and not deliver.
Good video
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Might be something going down over night. Transponders for RAF out of Cyprus and USA C17A aircraft out of Germany turned off entering conflict airspace. Been watching all this since before day 61 expecting something. Haven't seen military transponders. Tracked the RAF coming back. C17A's Transponder went off over Jordan after looping. Also tracked a Chinese air crafts transponder off after entering Iranian airspace. Another non listed passenger airliner at 725 feet riding the southern coast of Iran just disappeared. Something is up.
I might turn on the news.
I might turn on the news.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
They gotta have something to drop when they flee
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Strait Of Hormuz Disruption Fears Surge After Former Iranian Minister Threatens Transit Restrictions
JPMorgan's forecast of triple-digit Brent crude prices could soon be a reality as conflict risk in and around the Strait of Hormuz intensifies. The waterway, which handles roughly 20% of global oil trade, remains one of the world's most critical maritime chokepoints. Any disruption, particularly amid growing military escalation between Iran and Israel, could impact energy flows worldwide and send prices soaring."Starting tomorrow, for 100 days, no oil tankers or LNG cargoes will be able to pass through the strait without Iran's approval," Khandouzi said.
A blockade of the Strait of Hormuz—the world's busiest oil-shipping channel—would shut down the region's oil trade, supercharging oil prices.
The skinny waterway—at its narrowest point it is only 21 miles (33 km) wide— separating the UAE, Oman and Iran, connects the Persian Gulf with the Indian Ocean, and facilitates the movement of some 30% of the world's seaborne oil trade and 20% of the world's LNG supply (Table 1).
Strait Of Hormuz Disruption Fears Surge After Former Iranian Minister Threatens Transit Restrictions | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
At least we have our oil reserves
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Did Trump rebuild them? If not, China has our oil reserves, thanks Brandon.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Fuck if we are going to do this can we do it right. Just take them off the map period. But why would we do that, there is more money to be made in multiple wars over a 30 year period.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
It's only been six months since sleepy joe drained them dry!
Super interesting if you're into this sort of stuff.
"Allegedly" this picture shows an unidentified aircraft over Golan Israel in the pre dawn hours.
Very interesting.
There's only 1 current flying wing stealth bomber type, the b2. It's what everyone has seen and familiar with.
This, IMO it's not a B2, 100% not.
That leaves 2 other possibilities, it's our new B21 bomber but "allegedly" it's not operational it's still in qualification and testing. But the profile and shape sure seems to match.
Or, 2 is some previously unknown stealthy drone similar to what the RQ170 was like.
Realistically the US (and maybe China now) is probably the only military in the with this type of tech.
So it's starting to get really interesting what's going on.
"Allegedly" this picture shows an unidentified aircraft over Golan Israel in the pre dawn hours.
Very interesting.
There's only 1 current flying wing stealth bomber type, the b2. It's what everyone has seen and familiar with.
This, IMO it's not a B2, 100% not.
That leaves 2 other possibilities, it's our new B21 bomber but "allegedly" it's not operational it's still in qualification and testing. But the profile and shape sure seems to match.
Or, 2 is some previously unknown stealthy drone similar to what the RQ170 was like.
Realistically the US (and maybe China now) is probably the only military in the with this type of tech.
So it's starting to get really interesting what's going on.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Highly doubtful it's China personally I don't believe their hype on the capability copy
Highly doubtful it's China personally I don't believe their hype on the capability copy
No it's the US. Just making a point how rare this technology is. And that it's interesting previously unknown aircraft are now being spotted on camera. Shows the rapid escalation and seriousness of it all.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Why living in Putnam County sitting enjoying a cigar happened to look up and there's a RQ-4 Global Hawk I'm like
