US judge tosses machine gun possession case, calls ban unconstitutional
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Under the Second Amendment, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not
be infringed.” U.S. Const. amend. II. “[T]he Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all
instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the
founding.” D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 582 (2008). To keep arms means, simply, to possess
arms. Id. at 583. If the plain text of the Second Amendment applies to a defendant’s conduct, the
government has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical
firearm regulation tradition. New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1, 17
(2022). This standard requires a “historical analogue” between the modern regulation and
historical regulations, not a “historical twin.” United States v. Rahimi, 144 S. Ct. 1889, 1902–03
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be infringed.” U.S. Const. amend. II. “[T]he Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all
instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the
founding.” D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 582 (2008). To keep arms means, simply, to possess
arms. Id. at 583. If the plain text of the Second Amendment applies to a defendant’s conduct, the
government has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical
firearm regulation tradition. New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1, 17
(2022). This standard requires a “historical analogue” between the modern regulation and
historical regulations, not a “historical twin.” United States v. Rahimi, 144 S. Ct. 1889, 1902–03
(2024
ManualF150
.308 Win
I want to carry a Desert Eagle in NY. Maybe someday they will get rid of the stupid unconstitutional 50oz shit.
Uzi
.308 Win
Yeah, wake me up when you can purchase an AR-15 DIAS or glock switch online without the ATF busting into your home at 4:00am.
FRANKIE
.308 Win
Don’t know what this all means, for I have no need for any gun of that type. Couldn’t afford to feed it either. But realistically, around here they have to start with things like legally owning a pistol grip on a fucking rifle. Now there’s a start
Uzi
.308 Win
You've been able to do that for almost a decade now. It's called the desert eagle L5
Desert Eagle Pistol, L5, 5" Barrel with Integral Muzzle Brake, NY OKAY
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
But But But .. some guy in a black robe at SCOTUS said some rights can be restricted .. IE .. The 2nd ..
Jcp123
.357 mag
I’ll take a full auto, as long as it’s closed-bolt and isn’t a terrible semi-auto.
"nation’s historical
firearm regulation tradition"
What the hell does this even mean?
From what years?
From 1776, no regulations.
From when we could buy a full auto over the mail?
How about the nations historical politician regulation tradition; tar, feathers, rail?
firearm regulation tradition"
What the hell does this even mean?
From what years?
From 1776, no regulations.
From when we could buy a full auto over the mail?
How about the nations historical politician regulation tradition; tar, feathers, rail?
So far it looks like the majority of the arguments revolve around 1791, when the 2nd was ratified.
At that time "full auto" may not have existed but they did have crank guns.
Now THIS tradition would date back to 1776.
I wonder how much more authoritarianism is needed for the people to remember.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If this sticks even just long enough to force another NFA amnesty, I'm going to make a homemade open bolt zip gun if I have to raid every home depot plumbing aisle in 100 miles.
Just on principle.
That_FNG
.308 Win
You can. The desert eagle L5 model in 50AE is 49.5 ounces. My buddy has one and I am ordering one.
That_FNG
.308 Win
It doesn’t even need to be a functional machine gun. Just register whatever receiver you want.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If it was just for the purpose of registering something, the easiest solution is to start drilling that 3rd hole in a couple AR receivers you already have.
The cheapest to do it in bulk is to start stamping out lightning links or drop in auto sears.
Of course, if the machinegun ban falls, it's going to take the rest of the NFA with it pretty quick.
So maybe some suppressors and SBRs would be in order too.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Sorry, I wasn't specific, I mean a regular normal Desert Eagle. Not a some bullshit NY compliant one.
That_FNG
.308 Win
Got ya. Really the only difference is the frame is aluminum and the slide is more scalloped out. Feels like shooting any old regular desert eagle.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
what is this "register" you talking about willis
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Huh, now where did I leave my backhoe?
Robin
That_FNG
.308 Win
It is what happens during an amnesty. Since we are talking about a machine gun amnesty that is why it came up.
If no amnesty no need to register.
That_FNG
.308 Win
Yes to a certain extent, however 50AE feels like 50AE regardless of which desert eagle you shoot it out of. Kind of like shooting a G43X and a G48. Yes the G48 has softer recoil but only marginally so.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I'm aware of this. I just want a regular 50AE Desert Eagle like any one else in the "free" states can have.
Don't care what it feels like shooting.
