Or is it intentional? Like cocain mitch.
We’re losing it, election results aren’t favorable
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Or is it intentional? Like cocain mitch.
I just heard doom music come on
He absolutely slayed in that clip and he's absolutely spot on accurate. He's saying everything that we say and see and complain about.
Would love a super ticket of trump/Vivek then hand over to Vivek in 28 if we still have a country.
Hahahaha Vivek literally just gave me the answer I wanted in the clip @SomeSoldier posted above. Great timing
ManualF150
.308 Win
Got family that lives in Oneida County. Some politicians state they are Republicans, but they act like Dems.
Oneida County wouldn't be a bad place if Utica wasn't there. Utica is bad news and a waste of money.
I don't like Vivek, I get a Trojan horse vibe from him. I would rather see Trump/Lake.
The way the media is circling against him to me is a data point that he is not one of them and they are worried about him.
To me it's reassuring that almost every media story on Vivek now is negative. They don't want him to be popular.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It’s so bad I wonder if it’s on purpose. It almost has to be at this point. I’m baffled. In Kentucky the dems ran an ad with a 9 year old incest victim staying under their abortion plan she would be forced to have the baby. I’m against abortion but that’s insane. Fox News said the GOP candidate had no response and he lost. I get it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
You’d think that would wake up the party. I agree Rona McDonald is terrible. Vivek is right in every single point here. I’d have loved to have seen the media respond but they won’t.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That’s all of NYS.
No I don't. We all carry.
Becareful with this dude. He tells us what we want to hear and already know. He is WEF member. They say he is a "White Obama"
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Fuck! I actually have to, mostly, agree with Defilade. Dammit!
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
As stated before, he lost because he is a bought and paid for protege product of the Mitch McConnell Chinese RINO PAC. Lousy campaigner, poor platform skills, poorly communicated vision, no balls.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
I vote in the city of Oneida, it's in Madison County. Oneida is a shithole but the county is mostly very rural.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Just saw in the NY Post that LI flipped almost full red.
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
Truth. We are watching our rights erode as Republicans double down on their anti-abortion position.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I dont know whether to trust him yet or not. Many claim he's a Democrat, but really, he's similar in a lot of ways to Trump. And Trump was a Democrat before he ran for POTUS.
In greater reality, our vote here in NY won't matter one bit. If video came out of Biden banging 9yr olds, our electoral votes will go to Biden anyway. I'll be voting Trump, even if he's arrested and taken off the ballot, I'll write him in. My vote doesn't matter.
While I typically detest Democrats, I do like Kennedy's messages, and the very fact that Biden denies him Secret Service Protection say a LOT!
Vivek won't make it simply because he's Indian without an "American" sounding name...yea, I know it's fucking stupid, but we're talking about Archie Bunker voters here.
The former Army Oficers look and sound good, but being a Company Grade Officer in Combat does not give you the experience and intelligence of a Field Grade or General.
Trump is unquestionably the favorite, and there's got to be reasons why the Left is so willing to do anything to silence and stop him, and it sure isn't because he damaged the Country during his first term, now damage the swamp, yes, I'd go along with that, yet have no problem about it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I’d vote for that over a democrat so I’m not sure that matters so much.
I tend bar for a living and deal with hundreds of people each week. As much as I try to steer conversations away from politics, it almost always becomes a topic of conversation. Not just Democrats but a great many Republicans, especially Republican women, are basing their votes almost exclusively on the abortion issue. As long as the fringe right wants to outlaw abortion completely the Republican Party will never gain the Presidency.
Abortion is a losing issue for the Republican Party and should be dropped all together. I don’t believe abortion is in the government lane and it a discussion women need to have with their doctor, spiritual advisor and any personAl confidants they have. A senator, congressman or president don’t need to be involved.
No government agent needs to tell me or my doctor what procedures I can or cannot have. As long as they are trying to do so it will be correctly labeled as tyranny.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
If the Republicans had tried to appeal to the younger generation by pandering to their wants, most true conservatives would have broken off and fractured the party, just like we’re seeing now. Lose your identity in politics, and all is lost.
If the right came out and appealed financially, "you young kids will be working forever because by the time you are older social security will be insolvent due to wreckless spending by democrat social programs, burden of illegals and never ending wars yada yada yada....) They might be appealing as the adult voice in the room looking out for the younger generation still trying to find their way in life and hoping they can have a future.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Coming to this thread late I know, but here's my take.
The Dobbs decision fucked us. I mean REALLY fucked us. Many people who would've otherwise sat this one out came out to vote for abortion rights. The hardcore religious faction of the GOP has been chasing its tale for decades ever since Roe vowing that they would overturn it and garnered votes that way. Well, the dog finally caught its tale and now it doesn't know what to do. Let's be frank, the national GOP has been primarily a single issue party (abortion) for decades now. They sure as shit haven't done all that much for the Second Amendment.
Most people regardless of race, class, etc. want abortion to be legal. Like it or not that is the reality. The fact that every sate, including red states, where abortion access has been on the ballot has seen access restrictions firmly voted down. It's a losing issue especially with the young and women.
The GOP isn't doing itself any favors either. Look at the in-fighting over the House Speakership. My county is a microcosm of that where we had a GOP majority but the in-fighting was out of control. Well at the last election almost every Republican county legislator is out and there's a Democrat supermajority. How's that going to work out now. Already here them talking about raising taxes to cover pet projects.
The public at large sees this and sees a party that can't govern. I have a friend who worked briefly for the RNC. All he did was send out mass emails to people asking for money. He quit after a few months he was so frustrated by it. That's what the GOP is these days. A money raising machine that doesn't even have its key issue (abortion) to get donations for anymore. The Right would rather fight with each other over who is the most ideologically pure and this is where it gets us up and down the ballot.
For the record, I won reelection for another term as Town Justice. One of the few Republicans that seemed to keep their job this past election day.
When I try to have conservations with the County Committee about outreach and involving youth it all falls on death ears. My same friend who worked for the RNC started a Young Republicans Club in the county. Do you think the County Committee would be happy? Nope. Absolutely zero shits were given. And they still pat themselves on the back for their website that looks like it was last updated in 1998. What a joke. That's all they need to do as far as they're concerned.
It's time for the good old boys to go. Let someone under the age of 65 take some responsibility and maybe we'll start winning elections again. I'm a firm believer that the Gen Y (oh which I am one) and Gen Z would be receptive to conservative values and politics if they were met at least partway and given a chance to be involved. But from where I sit that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
The Dobbs decision fucked us. I mean REALLY fucked us. Many people who would've otherwise sat this one out came out to vote for abortion rights. The hardcore religious faction of the GOP has been chasing its tale for decades ever since Roe vowing that they would overturn it and garnered votes that way. Well, the dog finally caught its tale and now it doesn't know what to do. Let's be frank, the national GOP has been primarily a single issue party (abortion) for decades now. They sure as shit haven't done all that much for the Second Amendment.
Most people regardless of race, class, etc. want abortion to be legal. Like it or not that is the reality. The fact that every sate, including red states, where abortion access has been on the ballot has seen access restrictions firmly voted down. It's a losing issue especially with the young and women.
The GOP isn't doing itself any favors either. Look at the in-fighting over the House Speakership. My county is a microcosm of that where we had a GOP majority but the in-fighting was out of control. Well at the last election almost every Republican county legislator is out and there's a Democrat supermajority. How's that going to work out now. Already here them talking about raising taxes to cover pet projects.
The public at large sees this and sees a party that can't govern. I have a friend who worked briefly for the RNC. All he did was send out mass emails to people asking for money. He quit after a few months he was so frustrated by it. That's what the GOP is these days. A money raising machine that doesn't even have its key issue (abortion) to get donations for anymore. The Right would rather fight with each other over who is the most ideologically pure and this is where it gets us up and down the ballot.
For the record, I won reelection for another term as Town Justice. One of the few Republicans that seemed to keep their job this past election day.
When I try to have conservations with the County Committee about outreach and involving youth it all falls on death ears. My same friend who worked for the RNC started a Young Republicans Club in the county. Do you think the County Committee would be happy? Nope. Absolutely zero shits were given. And they still pat themselves on the back for their website that looks like it was last updated in 1998. What a joke. That's all they need to do as far as they're concerned.
It's time for the good old boys to go. Let someone under the age of 65 take some responsibility and maybe we'll start winning elections again. I'm a firm believer that the Gen Y (oh which I am one) and Gen Z would be receptive to conservative values and politics if they were met at least partway and given a chance to be involved. But from where I sit that ain't going to happen anytime soon.