Will TRUMP Cost Us ANOTHER Election In 2024 ????

[Bigfoot]

Trump sure has accomplished a lot and has been very successful for being a supposed idiot.
I'm just saying.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

But my question is. Why does his personality even matter to some people? It's about policy and Making America Great Again.

The voters aren't going on a dinner date with the guy.

Nobody likes an asshole. So personalities matter to some people. Unfortunately, we need the idiot to win. I just wish he would listen to those who dont like the horrible rhetoric everyday and those people walked away from supporting him. All i would like to see, is for him to clean it up and attract more voters. We NEED every vote out there. This election could be easily won, even if the left cheats, IF, the idiot listens to those trying to tell him to shut the phuck up and stay on point. If he did, he will gain a few more supporters. And did i mention, FKH

 

[Bigfoot]

I live in a very red county, and in this county, I live in what could be described as MAGA country.
I live in a bubble, so my opinions probably reflect that. I'm open to other opinions so it's all good.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Trump sure has accomplished a lot and has been very successful for being a supposed idiot.
I'm just saying.

He`s just a rich guy that stomped on everyone around him to get to where he is. And he`s till doing that, lol. Ask anyone who has done business with him in NYC.

Trump could be a nicer guy, if he would STFU.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I live in a very red county, and in this county, I live in what could be described as MAGA country.
I live in a bubble, so my opinions probably reflect that. I'm open to other opinions so it's all good.

Unfortunately, i live in an area of upstate that is mostly blue. And these people just keep voting for liberals. They are the reason my wife an i are leaving NYS when my wife retires real soon.

 

[Bigfoot]

TDS is real, and it's a strange phenomenon.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I live in a very red county, and in this county, I live in what could be described as MAGA country.
I live in a bubble, so my opinions probably reflect that. I'm open to other opinions so it's all good.

Just to let you know, brother, you`ve been a voice of reason for me ever since i`ve been on this forum. There`s been a few times, that YOU`VE changed my mind after chatting with you. I too, am open to opinions.

 

[Bigfoot]

Unfortunately, i live in an area of upstate that is mostly blue. And these people just keep voting for liberals. They are the reason my wife an i are leaving NYS when my wife retires real soon.

I wish you and your wife well in your endeavors. I would very much like to get out of New York myself. But my wife does not want to move away from her family and I can understand that. So here I am...

 

[Phazer]

Trump's biggest enemy is Trump sometimes. He needs to exercise some more tact from time to time.

As Ben Shapiro said in the past, "There's good Trump and bad Trump. When Trump comes out swinging, sometimes he hits a home run. But, sometimes he hits a baby."

Trump always has the ability to beat Trump.

Trump needs to keep up his energy, but add a bit of editing. Once he finds lines of attack that fall flat or hurt his message, he needs to drop them and focus on messaging that works. But, that's why his rallies are entertaining: You never know what you're gonna get.

 

[Bigfoot]

As Ben Shapiro said in the past, "There's good Trump and bad Trump. When Trump comes out swinging, sometimes he hits a home run. But, sometimes he hits a baby."

Trump always has the ability to beat Trump.

Trump needs to keep up his energy, but add a bit of editing. Once he finds lines of attack that fall flat or hurt his message, he needs to drop them and focus on messaging that works. But, that's why his rallies are entertaining: You never know what you're gonna get.

 

[libertysnake]

As Ben Shapiro said in the past, "There's good Trump and bad Trump. When Trump comes out swinging, sometimes he hits a home run. But, sometimes he hits a baby."

Trump always has the ability to beat Trump.

Trump needs to keep up his energy, but add a bit of editing. Once he finds lines of attack that fall flat or hurt his message, he needs to drop them and focus on messaging that works. But, that's why his rallies are entertaining: You never know what you're gonna get.

The thing is, Trump is used to "shock value" entertainment where the biggest jaw drop is the intended goal. A little dash of that can give someone the edge in politics, but as you're saying, he's laying it on too thick.

This is politics, not the wrestling ring.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

As Ben Shapiro said in the past, "There's good Trump and bad Trump. When Trump comes out swinging, sometimes he hits a home run. But, sometimes he hits a baby."

Trump always has the ability to beat Trump.

Trump needs to keep up his energy, but add a bit of editing. Once he finds lines of attack that fall flat or hurt his message, he needs to drop them and focus on messaging that works. But, that's why his rallies are entertaining: You never know what you're gonna get.

Well said, Bravo! This is EXACTLY what people are trying to get through to trump. People say he`s a good listener. I`ve yet to see that. I wish somebody would run up to him, take his blindfold and earplugs away from him so that he can see what he is screwing up when he goes off the rails.

 

[DoOver]

I sure hope you guys are right, about winning in November. I`m not convinced. Far from it actually.
Just makes very nervous with these phucking demOnotsee communists being able to cheat as easy as they do.

As concerning is OUR ability as a Nation to 'move on' 'going forward' past the obvious fact '81 million' votes, and villainize everyone who questions it.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

As concerning is OUR ability as a Nation to 'move on' 'going forward' past the obvious fact '81 million' votes, and villainize everyone who questions it.

I MIGHT believe 81 thousand votes, because we do have stupid people that still suck up valuable oxygen in our country,
but there`s no phucking way, they got 81 million votes. That`s as phucked up as a football bat!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I think you may have misunderstood what i wrote. Go back and re-read it. I was talking about friends, acquaintances, neighbors, also most of my family, that said they are a "no vote" for trump in the next election. They all voted for trump before, all have said they will not be voting at all in this election. Some people can`t remove the bad taste trump left them i guess. That was the basis of how i ended up starting this thread, because i have been hearing that so many people are never going to vote for trump again. Yet they voted for trump in the past elections, but refuse to vote for him now. Those, are lost votes my friend. How does trump win back those voters, more shitty trumpie rhetoric??? There are tons of people that won`t vote for him again. It isn`t a secret, nore is it hard to find people all over that won`t vote for trump again. The source is the actual people. Get out there an talk to them. Ask yourself this, how many Niki Haley voters did trump get after she dropped out. Those voters matter, yes, no? All kinds of sources out there, ask people. That`s what i did in my area of where i live. This is nothing new. Lots of people are a no vote, that once were.

This makes no sense to me. What would be the reason(s) these people wouldn't be voting for Trump again? Was it the great job he did when in office or that the second election was stolen? If it's something along the lines of "he's not a nice person" then **vomit**. I actually know a low information voter that admittedly doesn't follow politics at all but voted for Biden because "Trump is just not a nice person". She also still has not put together that her vote helped put the country into the shitty mess it's in now. The delusion and cognitive dissonance is staggering.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

This makes no sense to me. What would be the reason(s) these people wouldn't be voting for Trump again?

It makes no sense to me that people can`t understand why some people wont vote for trump again.
Not everybody likes the guy. Some people don`t like the taste of how he sells his bullsh!t.

Kinda weird, some people totally understand why some won`t vote for a whore, either. But that doesn`t seem to bother some, and certainly doesn`t bother me either, but one word of dislike for an asshole over a whore, and holy sh!t, people get all upside down. Personally, they BOTH suck! Just happens to be we need this win to stop the demOsh!ts. Every vote matters. We`ve got skin in the game. We can only hope he don`t phuck it up with his nonsense rhetoric that isn`t needed.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

It makes no sense to me that people can`t understand why some people wont vote for trump again.
Not everybody likes the guy. Some people don`t like the taste of how he sells his bullsh!t.

Kinda weird, some people totally understand why some won`t vote for a whore, either. But that doesn`t seem to bother some, and certainly doesn`t bother me either, but one word of dislike for an asshole over a whore, and holy sh!t, people get all upside down. Personally, they BOTH suck! Just happens to be we need this win to stop the demOsh!ts. Every vote matters. We`ve got skin in the game. We can only hope he don`t phuck it up with his nonsense rhetoric that isn`t needed.

That's just it, isn't it? You don't have to like the candidate. Just their policies more than the other. You've even said as much and understand the alternative. Just for the record, I'm not voting for Harris because she's a "whore". I'm not voting for her because she has terrible policies, is a hypocrite and an imbecile. Not in the way you call Trump an idiot or ass either, but actually unintelligent. That's clearly not a good trait to run the country. So then if it's just a matter of not liking Trump because of character than we are lost. It's like being in high school all over again. It's the very meaning of cutting off your nose to spite your face if I've ever seen it.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

That's just it, isn't it? You don't have to like the candidate. Just their policies more than the other. You've even said as much and understand the alternative. Just for the record, I'm not voting for Harris because she's a "whore". I'm not voting for her because she has terrible policies, is a hypocrite and an imbecile. Not in the way you call Trump an idiot or ass either, but actually unintelligent. That's clearly not a good trait to run the country. So then if it's just a matter of not liking Trump because of character than we are lost. It's like being in high school all over again. It's the very meaning of cutting off your nose to spite your face if I've ever seen it.

I can`t stand the guy, but i don`t vote with my feelings like the ones i spoke of. I`m voting for the asshole because we need to keep the whore and her stinkb!tches out of the WH. Would you rather i not vote at all for the asshole ? How does not voting help our side win ? Look friend, i`m voting for the guy, but i`m not a trump ass kisser like some are.

 

[Robin]

I don't think the guy cost us anything. Your blame game is off the mark.
Robin

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I can`t stand the guy, but i don`t vote with my feelings like the ones i spoke of. I`m voting for the asshole because we need to keep the whore and her stinkb!tches out of the WH. Would you rather i not vote at all for the asshole ? How does not voting help our side win ? Look friend, i`m voting for the guy, but i`m not a trump ass kisser like some are.

No, I rather you vote. I in fact said that you are aware of the alternative. I'm making conversation about the "others" that you speak of. The ones who's votes are "lost". What this thread is about. Now if you asked me if I'd rather those others not vote at all vs Harris. Then absolutely yes. Sit this one out. Let the adults do what they have to do.

 

[ManrisFrack]

What a moron

The second I watched that I thought, "He's referring to hardening our elections against cheating and the cocksuckers cut the crucial context to make the idiots believe he's talking about abolishing elections." Low and behold, I look up what he actually said and I'm 100% right. It wasn't hard, I just know they've been doing this with reckless abandon since he became a threat in '16.

Honestly, if there are enough of our countrymen that still buy blatant deceit like this, we don't deserve the ideal of America.

 

[fresch]

My parents were big in local politics and this behavior by the media has been going on since time started.
I personally watched an interview taped in our house by the local news channel, by the 5 pm news it had been cut so bad it wasn't anything like what was recorded.

 

[DoOver]

If you were in a swing state and voted for Perot, then that's why we contracted Clinton's.

If Bush (as bad as he was) had won in '92, we might not have had to deal with 3 decades of Clinton bullshit.

If you were in NY at the time, the the protest vote is quite understandable.

Still blame Perot for our chronic case of Clintons though. As sexuallly transmitted diseases go, that one is the worst.

I can not agree with you more, but WTF!!!
I am not toeing the line and 'just voting red even if he's dead'.
Parrot went trough what Trump has been going through since 2015 and wussed out.
This is why Trump is the best President in my lifetime and yes I happily voted for Regan who gave us freaking drugs for guns.

 

[DoOver]

He`s just a rich guy that stomped on everyone around him to get to where he is. And he`s till doing that, lol. Ask anyone who has done business with him in NYC.

Trump could be a nicer guy, if he would STFU.

Construction business is not for whiny pussys, that's why he IS successful.

 

[DoOver]

The second I watched that I thought, "He's referring to hardening our elections against cheating and the cocksuckers cut the crucial context to make the idiots believe he's talking about abolishing elections." Low and behold, I look up what he actually said and I'm 100% right. It wasn't hard, I just know they've been doing this with reckless abandon since he became a threat in '16.

Honestly, if there are enough of our countrymen that still buy blatant deceit like this, we don't deserve the ideal of America.

Sunny Day Patriots.

 

[spat]

I can not agree with you more, but WTF!!!
I am not toeing the line and 'just voting red even if he's dead'.
Parrot went trough what Trump has been going through since 2015 and wussed out.
This is why Trump is the best President in my lifetime and yes I happily voted for Regan who gave us freaking drugs for guns.

The difference between Perot and Trump is that Trump recognized that a 3rd party run only hurts the party you are most closely aligned to.

So he engineered a takeover of a major party.

If you can't win the nomination of the major party you are most closely aligned to you will never win the general election, and can only ever help the candidate you most strongly oppose.

But Perot thought "I can't get 50% of the Republicans to vote for me in the primary, but I will get enough democrats to vote for me in the general to win" that's insane. The only way that works is if he's more popular among democrats than Republicans, and that would make democrats the party he was most closely aligned to.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I don't think the guy cost us anything. Your blame game is off the mark.
Robin

Its not a game. Our country is in deep sh!t.
Now explain the "never again trumpers".

We NEED every republican vote!

 

[DoOver]

The difference between Perot and Trump is that Trump recognized that a 3rd party run only hurts the party you are most closely aligned to.

So he engineered a takeover of a major party.

If you can't win the nomination of the major party you are most closely aligned to you will never win the general election, and can only ever help the candidate you most strongly oppose.

But Perot thought "I can't get 50% of the Republicans to vote for me in the primary, but I will get enough democrats to vote for me in the general to win" that's insane. The only way that works is if he's more popular among democrats than Republicans, and that would make democrats the party he was most closely aligned to.

I wouldn't say engineered, I'd say clearly the only Republican choice.

 

[Willyone]

Trump would 100% be a shoe in if he'd quell the verbal BS, and I fully expect family, friends, and advisors around him have told him that. I wish he'd listen. Regardless, common sense says he's the better, obviously way better, of the two nominees to run the show. And I'm sure a lot of dems realize that. But Trump has hurt their widdle feewings, so...

Even with his foot in mouth disease I like the guy. And like him or not, the country needs him at the helm.

 

[DoOver]

The difference between Perot and Trump is that Trump recognized that a 3rd party run only hurts the party you are most closely aligned to.

So he engineered a takeover of a major party.

If you can't win the nomination of the major party you are most closely aligned to you will never win the general election, and can only ever help the candidate you most strongly oppose.

But Perot thought "I can't get 50% of the Republicans to vote for me in the primary, but I will get enough democrats to vote for me in the general to win" that's insane. The only way that works is if he's more popular among democrats than Republicans, and that would make democrats the party he was most closely aligned to.

Trump is clearly taking Independent and Democrat votes.

As you point out Parrot got mostly independent votes.