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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Literally the very first line says it doesn't apply on private property not part of school grounds, so I think not.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Pistol permit exempts you from that. (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to the possession of a firearm-- `(i) on private property not part of school grounds; `(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a...
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    Nys election results suck

    The entire party has to be blown up or they will not win again. All of these old dinosaurs. Gone. Voting will shift more and more to mail in and probably via smartphone in the future, and there is only one party who that is going to help and even make it easier to cheat. Democrats will continue...
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    Nys election results suck

    It's over. If you want to stay on the ride that's up to you. I'm getting off.
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    Nys election results suck

    Well, can't say I'm surprised. I thought a few more races across the country would go red, but didn't think we had much of a chance in NY. As for me, I think I'm going to pull back, keep to myself more, not go out anymore. I'll adapt even more of an "I don't give a f*ck" attitude. I'm not gong...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    An appeal has been filed. I expect a stay to be ordered shortly. Welcome to 4 more years. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829.80.0.pdf
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    Restraining Order Granted for Houses of Worship

    Court document: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913.52.0.pdf
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    Restraining Order Granted for Houses of Worship

    Because it's just a district court ruling, not a circuit court or a Supreme Court. It only covers the district area. I'm not a lawyer but have been reading up a bunch on this stuff lately and that is my understanding.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Love this from the judge. "the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are the status quo, not 2022 legislation on the books for nine weeks." "The State requests a three-day stay pending appeal, which Plaintiffs oppose. The State's request is denied." "Legislative enactments may not eviscerate...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    RESPONCE: MOTION TO DISMISS 11/3 https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829.75.0_3.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829.76.0.pdf
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    Safariland paddle holster question

    Hi everyone, I have a bit of a problem. I got a Safariland ALS holster with the paddle attachment after being told by a friend how great they were. The issue is I can't get it to fit my 1.75" belts. I've tried it with 3 of them and the hook just doesn't fit under the belt to secure it. The...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Sensitive locations that existed in 1791, sure. The new play is playing dumb about what was what back then as the link I just posted shows. Thats their new play. They aren't historians so how do they know?
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    More games being played by judges who won't do as they're told by SCOTUS. “we are not experts in what white, wealthy and male property owners thought about firearms regulation in 1791,” he said...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I don't know very much about these things but I would think the Supreme Court ruling would be the only settled law that matters.
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    I Just Early Voted The Republican Party Line

    I just looked up Prop 1. "4 billion, 200 million dollars" :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy: How do people vote for this shit?! NO!
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Am I still toast when the multimillion dollar settlement hits my bank account for plainly violating my civil rights that were clearly reaffirmed by the Supreme Court? It's not a second class right. Not anymore. It's no different than any other right. Qualified immunity won't apply either. Not...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    They will. They will need to be very selective though. If they charge your average person who is just minding their business they are going to have problems. They will have to charge a career criminal or someone committing other crimes.
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    Any know a good holster for Glock 19 Gen 5

    I guess I should have given some specific recommendations. I'm certainly not an expert, but in the few years I've been carrying I have learned a lot. I have 2 big boxes full of holsters that I've moved on from. I'm currently running a Henry Holster which I think is great. You can't go wrong with...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Because they get compliance without actually having to do anything. They can appease their base. They know 99% will just go along with it because they are "law-abiding". That's why I like the new shift to "peaceable persons". More and more people are not playing the game anymore. The Supreme...
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    Any know a good holster for Glock 19 Gen 5

    The problem with that style is it prevents you from getting a full firing grip on the pistol. I would not recommend that design nor would I recommend an alien gear. Hybrid type holsters also do not allow the pistol to click in securely. Look into a holster with soft loops or DCC monoblock belt...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    After hearing the state's Attorney say in court that they aren't enforcing any of this I guess I'm not going to really let it bother me much. It would be nice to have the decision though. I assume it won't be coming out over the weekend at all?
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    It appears as if an appeal has been filed today, making me think the decision is out, although maybe not officially. This is either a screw up or good news for us.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    UPDATE FROM HEARNG: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829.71.0.pdf
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    This is totally misleading and flat out wrong. The TRO never took effect. It was theatre. Shameful of them to put this out there. Doing a victory lap based on a lie.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    A few more things that popped into my head from the call, our lawyer seemed very unprepared. I specifically remember: He was asked how many instances in history would he consider enough to create a historical tradition when talking about laws. He said he didn't know. Just said more than a few...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    But why give up on places where you already won a TRO and the judge already cited no historical tradition for? Seemed like a slam dunk.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Yea I don't really know what to make of it. I was listening in the background and didn't think too much when they gave up shelters and camps and places with children, then my ears perked up when they also gave up on places that sell alcohol and healthcare centers and public transportation. I...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I remember the lawyer for the state even being surprised that we were no longer challenging some of the places. He said "oh I wasn't aware you were not challenging these places any longer, well then I'll move on" I'm not a lawyer but that seems pretty clear cut to me.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Something not being a good idea and something having historical analogue to be constitutionally legal are two vey different things. There is no tradition in this country of banning guns in bars. This was already addressed in the TRO.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I heard the state start talking about other states that prohibit carrying in bars generally then he mentioned carrying while intoxicated as a separate item. The judge then said they weren't arguing that and the state atty moved on to something else. So not sure if that means the entire thing...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Also for those who couldn't listen live, the judge said he'll issue his decision "as soon as possible" for whatever that's worth. I listened to the entire thing. I'm not trying to be negative but I don't think it went very well for us. The judge let them get away with a lot of stuff. Citing...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Did anyone else who called in to listen hear the states attorney say that 2A covers weapons in common use? I couldn't believe they actually said that in court. How are we not fighting for mags and real AR's? Seems like a big missed opportunity.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    “Our” attorney was unprepared and stumbling over his words the whole time. Kept losing his place too. The other side was polished and has sources for everything they mentioned. I can’t see the judge ruling in our favor after hearing this.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Sounds like for standing they are looking for people to have been arrested and charged first. Or denied a permit.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Also lots of problems with standing. No injured party. Etc. not looking good. At all.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Not challenging Times Square Bars and restaurants Camps Shelters Health facilities Library Areas where Children gather Public transport except for checking a gun to fly on a plane probably more. they backed way off.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I’m listening to it now. Call in (audio only) +1 315-691-0477 Phone Conference ID: 595 261 93# I think the opening was weak. The atty said they won’t challenge Times Square and a handful of other places. Seems like they are backing off and just gonna try for a few places right now. They also...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Restricted places and magazines are my biggest concerns. Anything active on the magazine front that would help us or is that not a focus in this state? I know out west it's a hot issue. Wonder why nobody talks about it here?
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Wait till the IRS uses the POS footage as grounds to audit you etc..
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    BREAKING: A Federal Judge in Buffalo, NY has ruled churches are legal to carry in .. for now ‘[n]othing in the Second Amendment's text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms,’...
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I'm not the person to give it to ya. I'm just trying to keep up with what's going on the best I can.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Just filed: More: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fi...Motion_for_Stay_Pending_Appeal.pdf?1665674407
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Yes. The entire CCIA is law and it is in full force.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I'm sure they'll drag as long as they can. I'm sure they've been told to do so by the state.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Figured this was significant enough for its own headline, at least for now. Whoever's in charge around here can merge or delete if they see fit.
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    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I had a feeling those would come today. I've been watching for it since I got to work.
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