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I have always been a Mossberg shotgun guy. This was a deal you don't pass on!

I took it down all the way and cleaned. It was not dirty at all.

But I got a good deal on this 870 police trade in. It's a 2009 and looks to have been in a cruiser rack and shot very little. I really like the xs sights on it. Looking forward to some shotgunning at the range soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He meant after when he was driving away I think.

I used to carry a .22 when I was a kid to the woods range. My friend did the same. We both had rifles. Never got a second look and I'm in my 30's so it was not that long ago.

I don't support what these guys did and would not do it myself. That being said I don't support random traffic stops without cause. EDIT: Here is the initial stop. Real nice guys.... but still no reason to stop someone for wearing a ski mask when it's cold outside. I think this is the clown...

And if they were stopped just to search for legally owned guns the leo's involved should be fired. "The on-duty sergeant conducted a traffic stop to investigate, but did not find any guns and released the men. Disgruntled, the men drove to the Dearborn police station to confront officers." A...

I wonder if the traffic stop was bull shit like they said. I wonder if any dash/body cam evidence exists.

Neither does video tape. Not that the guard did anything wrong here!

[ 50mm tube. I'm mounting a proper telescope. JK! My gosh that would be a beast. Do they even make them?

I wonder how this will play out. Will the charges be dropped?

. That's the base I have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was looking at them today at gander. All they had was high. Might order those. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Can't post pics for some reason . It was the rifle with stickers on! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In the past I would just throw on some weaver plain old rings. This was On my hunting rifles. I need some advice on rings for my 10 fcp. It has a 20 moa base and I will be using a 50mm scope. I want to stay under $100. The rifle was only $475. The stickers are off now by the way. Sent from...

They are still using benellis also. This is an odd Niche role. I think they are still using 590a1's as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It looks like the normal flex stock with a pistol grip only and a m4 style stock. Throw on a breaching barrel and that's about it I think. They sell all of those things separate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sig should pay you to own it. Yuck.

Many pcc's feel cheap and have plastic all over. This does not. It's sort of an ar platform. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just handle a just right. I have to say it's More solid than I thought. Reliable? I have no clue. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know it's not the Ruger, I want a takedown like that Ruger though! Free state of mind... Standardized ammo is a bigger deal in NY than most other places since we can't legally have a loaded mag and a rifle in the truck. One could drop the mag from the pistol and use the carbine if needed I guess.

If someone has used a shotgun since they were a kid it might be the best option for them. If you hunker down and call 911 a pump or reliable semi-auto 12 (20 might be better) is a pretty good choice. A load of buck is a pretty good fight stopper.

Looks like a gimmick and fragile. If it can take a beating then sure. I had a sub 2000 because it was small and took my glock mags. Mine was a total POS (but that looks more well built) He also broke the law by shouldering that pistol (if no tax stamp)! JK (I think I'm kidding not sure on those...

Self-defense is usually much less than 50 yards. Both will kill however one might end bad intentions sooner. I don't think any 9mm can match a 5.56 at any distance. As for the noise... I'm willing to deal with it assuming it stops the fight sooner. Why don't swat guys use 9mm carbines for the...

The vast majority still can't compete with a rifle for serious work. For a range gun and cheap practice they are great. In any other case why carry around something the same size as a m-4 that can't compete with a rifle cartridge? The .357 magnum really shines from a longer tube but I have yes...

Why did you like this Will? If it can't make it through a car door how will it penetrate a frying pan?

I never heard of a .40 s&w rifle. I have heard them referred to as carbines though. Even the name has carbine in it. Terrible choice but better than what the NYPD authorizes for most officers I guess (if they are even durable enough).

It was more uprange. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What if they bump it into the air conditioner in their dorm room during basic?

Sailor/Doc joking and me being an asshole aside.... The flex system is weak. The Marines will break them in short order. Wonder who tested them?

Everyone has to be something in life. I excel at that role.

Here's how I fix it when it gets loose. Mine rides in a case most of the time. Pound the bracket tight.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The look on that guys face was priceless. He wanted to gtfo of there. I would have!

That's true but come on now. haha Marines are tough on gear. I have a flex. It's not going to hold up! Jabs at Doc are always fun!

I think they still use them. They are not widely used but this system is not robust enough. Not even for sailors..... :wave: Where are you Doc.

Don't think the Winchester has anything like the flex lock system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's a fine light duty shotgun system (the flex). I would not recommend for military use. The 500 is plenty rugged but the flex lock system is not. I have one and they get loose. It's an easy enough fix (pound it with a rubber mallet to tighten the bracket). Not a great move in my opinion.

This I old so I'm guessing many of you have seen it. I had not. Omg what an idiot. Wow.

10mm would be nice also.

The information on wong is incorrect. Didn't matter though. SWAT staged and waited and waited and waited some more. When he killed himself they finally went in. It was a load bearing vest.

Pushing a hollow point that fast.... might have penetration issues if it opens up too fast. Still put a hole in a frying pan though.

That comment on safety trigger you? Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They won't change. What load would that be and how does it perform out of a g22? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I believe the .40 gains about the least amount of velocity out of longer tubes than any modern service cartridge. What a stupid decision. Stick with the shotgun. Also that guy has the most 90's haircut ever.

Not really.

Ready to go to the garbage can.... JK! But I will pass on a heat shield, a pistol grip stock (even more so with the safety you can't reach with it on a Mossberg) and most anything ATI. Not a fan of their stuff. Also less capacity.

Are you counting right? When they say it's a 9 shot they mean 8+1. The new 7 shot it 6+1. Mossberg never says "+1" when they list capacity on shotguns for some reason. You should not be able to fit 9 2 3/4 shells in. " This model (51663) features a 20 inch barrel, 9 shot capacity ( 8 + 1), and...

They are 8 +1. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Did you read the op? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk