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Some countries in Africa have minimum energy requirements. The .338 is legal for all game in those countries. While legal, I would still prefer a big bore rifle while going after cape buffalo or other big nasties! Big holes that go deep and all that good stuff.

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Saiga .223 with 16 Inch tube. Great ny legal rifle option. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kel tec... Barf. It will hold 40 and stop working after 4. Jk kel tec fans... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yep. You know the layout. An intruder won't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If this gun is worth $500 I will offer $150 and get offended if you sell to someone that offers $450. Because my offer meant "we had a deal going".

Akshar? The cop that was caught on tape talking about getting his cop girlfriends family members out of DUI car accidents? I'm not surprised he's wasting time and our money.

" I have witnessed this situation first hand. Shooter shoots deer, deer runs away limping never to be seen again. I ask the shooter what did you shoot it with? He says I used a 180gr TSX a top of a nice column of varget from the 308. My first reaction is oh! you know what happened right?" He...

My gosh Remington just plain sucks anymore.

The 35 gunner has a taylor ko score of 21. The .223 77gr listed here has a score of 6. Not sure how this calculation differs from the taylor but the scores are interesting for both.

We don't all have spare frying pans to shoot sir. That being said the "any 30.06 left would most likely be core-lokt and it kills just fine!

I can't think of anyway to account for bullet construction.

I'm going on the pic of the sheriffs swat team. The one that you said would also have state police with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

First of all who said the sheriff would protect anyone? I just said they won't be kicking doors in here. I stand by that statement. The state will have to do their own dirty work. You can site penile law whatever. This is unchartered territory. The sheriff does not have to send door kickers out...

If you want a Savage around $500 I would take a serious look at one of these: I like having irons just in case. You can do the price match and get about $10 bucks off. Free shipping then a transfer fee. Savage 11 HOG HNTR 308 TB SAVAGE 11 SCOUT 308 18 MB SR ODG

Not in my county. State police maybe but sheriffs are elected. If they want to stay in office that type of shit won't happen for a permit without an expiration date on it in most rural counties. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Only stuck here 14 more years eh will? Who's counting though .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Glock still won the contract for them. If it was rigged then they did a bad job of it.

Most reliable at blowing up due to unsupported chambers maybe......... HA

Where is the list?

I'm guessing the takedown might play a part in the decision also. Not having to pull the trigger would look good to uncle sam.

I'm sure all the mud is the exact same consistency. He was saying it was "soupier" at one point.

Not the video I saw. It failed the mud also (same format). This guy sort of copied the MAC format. Well not sort of he totally copied it. The torture tests are about as important to me as shooting through frying pans. As long as it works under reasonable circumstances it's good with me. I'm not...

Punching through ambushes right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looks like a sig! haha Did the fake sig beat the real one? Or did they not test the comparable sig model?

I would guess the test results were similar and it came down to price. Sig most likely gave them away ala Glock with cops. It was smart. I might order a 320 tonight depending on how much scotch I drink. It was a bad week. Clever marketing sig. Well played haha

The army is not going to request custom springs or pulls unless it makes it like a NYPD 12 pound trigger. "The Sig points more naturally is also arbitrary since the glock has a lower center of gravity for the group." Lower center of gravity is not always a big deal and does not equal natural...

I just watched a video where a Glock 19 failed a mud test. You better sell all the glocks and that that one pistol that passed them all (can't recall the brand but it's not a household name).

Turd Fergeson says.... You can't really say the Glock is more or less reliable. Longer track record sure. You don't have access to the test data (that I'm aware of) that was used to make this decision. The 320 also has a trigger that is way better than any glock (stock) I have used. Others say...

I thought you were saying he could just go in and fire them all if someone at the cia cut a fart in a meeting with him.

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Admittedly I read most of this thread on my phone and on company time (not thoroughly). I saw fake news and news organizations mentioned. I didn't think anyone actually thought the CIA was going to kill the guy. I don't want a president to be able to just fire all intelligence agency employees...

I can read well enough to know about independent agencies. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Holdover, do you think the CIA is planning on killing trump? If so why? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I didn't think you were saying they are going to kill him. Of course if someone had proof they were endangering the president they would be fired. Good luck ever getting any proof. I don't think they are in the business of killing Americans.... well not on our own soil and not the president...

Ohhhh holdover thinks the CIA is putting his life in danger? Tinfoil time! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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I think his guns look like poop [emoji90] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If they wanted to kill him it would have been much sooner. How long was he in office? 2.5 years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not disagreeing. Just trying to stay in the real world. It's not going away and he can't fire everyone (as you know). I also think Trump will expand the black budget the more I think about it.

At least they get something right haha CIA: Repeat After Me. The NYPD Is NOT A REAL Intelligence Agency.

That may be true. I need to read up more on it. I read some that said they are constitutional because of other reasons (can't recall all of them right now). One said congress can defund them and the president can fire the director of intelligence. Look at the list of other independent agencies...

But does it expressly forbid it? Certain things they do sure, but the organization as a whole?