Can 10mm Save the 1911?
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No. I'd never carry a slow loading revolver that jumps all around the target.1:20, is that you Will?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Let me guess? You wear a catheter?
Camaro45th
.357 mag
I have 2 1911s, one of which is 9MM. I bought it for the sole purpose that ammo is cheaper. It’s still fun to shoot and the weight of the 5” barrel keeps the nose from jumping around when shooting.
Twogunwilly
6.5 Creedmoor
10mm can save everything.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I didn’t know the 1911 was In Trouble. I’ll be buying another one likely soon.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
45 ACP is almost 11.5mm. Just sayin'.
Twogunwilly
6.5 Creedmoor
Odd, isn't it.45 ACP is almost 11.5mm. Just sayin'.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Yankee Marshal says the .45 ACP isn't bad but it does nothing better than other calibers. I agree. It's too slow. It lacks penetration in both soft tissue and hard barriers compared to other calibers because there just isn't enough case capacity to push that heavy projectile past 750 to 800 fps unless you use a 5 inch barrel and even then you are looking at 900 fps the most. All calibers from 38 Special on up beat it in penetration on both hard barriers and soft tissue.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
When you start going that light they expand violently, fragment, and under-penetrate.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
10mm couldn't save it self let alone the 1911
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Who says it needs saving?
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
The Underwood Xtreme Defender seems to be a good choice in a full size or Commander size 1911 45acp with 1300 to 1360 fps, good barrier penetration, and decent subsequent gel performance.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Huh, shot up about a hundred rounds yesterday and my 1911 didn't need one whit of help, no complaints from me or the pistola.
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah... Paper usually doesn't put up much of a up a fight. Try a frying pan or truck door.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I was shooting milk jugs and clay pigeons. I would be willing to bet you that my 1911, .45 ACP will not only penetrate my truck door, but will exit out the other one. You win, you get to laugh your ass off, I win, you buy two new doors, matching paint, installed, a case of Bud, and I get to laugh my ass off. I'll PM my address if your interested, and you will have to have enough cash, held by a neutral observer, to cover the fix. I don't do frying pans, my wife would flatten my head.
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Chicken
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You've never had her chicken, you would leave he frying pan alone too!!
Robin
Robin
45 may not penetrate barriers the best but that is not always a bad thing. Think about collateral damage..... Plus good 45 ammo expands to 1 inch and still penetrates 14.5 inches.
As far as 10mm 1911s they are great but the two guys I know that had the Colt didnt have the best of luck with them.
As far as 10mm 1911s they are great but the two guys I know that had the Colt didnt have the best of luck with them.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Uzi
.308 Win
A 45acp serves its purpose just fine for a handgun that is carried for self defense and used at the range. I think anyone who doesn't believe it's worthy should volunteer for scientific purposes and be shot by a full magazine worth of 45acp in a 1911. After they're alive and well, they can list immediately on a note pad provided to them the following,
1. How did it feel?
2. How many pints of blood have you lost thus far?
3. How's the organ failure thing working out?
4. It was only going 750-900fps, you're alright... right?
5. Would you try this again?
6. Not enough penetration, right?
7. How does this test compare to shooting a frying pan?
8. Where would you like to be buried and your funeral held?
1. How did it feel?
2. How many pints of blood have you lost thus far?
3. How's the organ failure thing working out?
4. It was only going 750-900fps, you're alright... right?
5. Would you try this again?
6. Not enough penetration, right?
7. How does this test compare to shooting a frying pan?
8. Where would you like to be buried and your funeral held?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Sure it kills naked flesh but that isn't the issue. A .380 will as well assuming it hits a vital. The issue is barriers and that's why no modern Police department fields it in large numbers.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
.45 Gap.