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Saltwater60 said:
Fair point but if they are being rounded up and removed would some of them take the $1,000? I’m guessing not many will because going back home isn’t a viable option or they would not have worked so hard to get here in the first place.
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Back as far as the 80s my dad knew of people who came here to work on Monday and then turned themselves in for deporation for the free ride home on Friday to spend the weekend with their family.

That was back when most illegals were *from* Mexico. I imagine that doesn't work when you get sent farther.
 
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spat said:
Back as far as the 80s my dad knew of people who came here to work on Monday and then turned themselves in for deporation for the free ride home on Friday to spend the weekend with their family.

That was back when most illegals were *from* Mexico. I imagine that doesn't work when you get sent farther.
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Never thought of that but doesn’t surprise me
 
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What's up.....Man!!


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Melinda Gates says it’s Devastating that President Trump and Elon Musk is Dismantling USAID

Yes… “there were probably some trimming that need to be had” lol

Some “trimming”…

• $20M for an Iraqi Sesame Street
• $2M for Moroccan pottery classes
• $11M to tell Vietnam stop burning trash
• $27M to give gift bags to illegals before we deport them.
• $330M to help Afghanis grow crops (Opium)
• $300M on to build diesel fueled power plants, but they couldn’t use them.
• $200M on unused Afghani dam that was too unsafe to ever be used.
• $250M on a road in Afghanistan that was never used…
—— we literally built a road to nowhere.
Others…
• $9M for “humanitarian aid”
—— but oops, it went to al-Qaeda
• $1M for bat research in Wuhan, China
• USAID was funding fashion week in Paris
 
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I’m optimistic about this, I truly am but we will see if our trade stays the same or if USA to UK increases or decreases. I just don’t trust the UK nor do I like them. They seem to always want our money and our help but want to undermine us at the same time. Dirty Brits!! I don’t trust them and they are still in right with Canada who wants to keep screwing us. I hope the UK’s USA need is greater than their despise of us.
 
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What's up.....Man!!


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Melinda Gates says it’s Devastating that President Trump and Elon Musk is Dismantling USAID

Yes… “there were probably some trimming that need to be had” lol

Some “trimming”…

• $20M for an Iraqi Sesame Street
• $2M for Moroccan pottery classes
• $11M to tell Vietnam stop burning trash
• $27M to give gift bags to illegals before we deport them.
• $330M to help Afghanis grow crops (Opium)
• $300M on to build diesel fueled power plants, but they couldn’t use them.
• $200M on unused Afghani dam that was too unsafe to ever be used.
• $250M on a road in Afghanistan that was never used…
—— we literally built a road to nowhere.
Others…
• $9M for “humanitarian aid”
—— but oops, it went to al-Qaeda
• $1M for bat research in Wuhan, China
• USAID was funding fashion week in Paris
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Besides banging the former richest guy in the world for 30 years, and overlooking his sexual escapades with his buddy Epstein, I'm wondering what her qualifications are he's such an expert in these matters.
 
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I think Trump would be doing Canada a huge favor making Canada the 51st State, Don't you?? Personally I say let them suffer if they don't want to fight for their freedom. Are Canadians just going to ignore that fact that Carney got sworn in a PM without one Canadian ever voting for him? He’s a Con Man trying to convince them he doesn’t have to be voted in and he saying he’s standing up for Democracy in Canada?? Listen to this.......

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libertysnake said:
And all of this is going to be passed onto the consumer, or just no more raspberry pi or DIY electronics for a long time.

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The tariffs won't necessarily be permanent though. Its a tool to bring other countries to bargaining table, and also encourage more manufacturing here. Short term pain for long term gain.

I liken it to cancer and chemo therapy. The chemo makes you feel way worse for a while, but in the end you come out better than ever.
 
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These countries have been charging us extraordinary tariffs forever. Last year I had to order a suit from a company in Scotland for my sons wedding. The suit was $759. the customs duty was $279. Trump is merely working to level the playing field.... and its working. Many of these countries are looking to re-negotiate these trade deals. Will it bring manufacturing back here? Doubt it will do much for that but we will pay less for the crap we import.
 
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Why do the Chinese tariff our products anyways?
What are they buying?
I can't think of a single thing they don't manufacture.
And as a Totalitarian State, they could simply pressure any potential buyers of US goods not to buy.
 
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Tariffs been in play for 100+yrs. Tariffs have nothing to do with the prices, The prices were high before Trump…. Just being used as a scam
Like the car dealer. Hurry before the tariffs hit.
Ummm the cars built in Ga. Shetbag
 
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They can TRY and pass on tarriff's off to the consumer. The Consumer is the boss as to whether they buy it or go elsewhere.
 
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kev74 said:
All China has to do is open their market to our products and remove the tariffs and our tariffs will go away as well.

More expensive trinkets in the short term is a small price to pay.
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There are a few strategic products that we need go bring back onshore.

It's fine to rely on China for cheap crap, but we need to be able to supply all our own pharmaceuticals for instance. Even if they cost more.
 
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spat said:
There are a few strategic products that we need go bring back onshore.

It's fine to rely on China for cheap crap, but we need to be able to supply all our own pharmaceuticals for instance. Even if they cost more.
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I'm not in disagreement. But this was not thought out well on the part of this administration on how they went about doing this, and how to mitigate this as much as possible for the American consumer.

It wasn't like they planned out where production was going to go when there wasn't a supply from China. Instead, they are just sucking up the tariff money, at the expensive of middle class people paying more for the same products. It's not they're turning around and pumping that collected tariff money back into people feeling the pain. They're just indirectly taxing us more right now.

And the more pain consumers feel, they less they spend. And the less they spend, without any help, the more the economy is going to fucking tank.
 
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libertysnake said:
I'm not in disagreement. But this was not thought out well on the part of this administration on how they went about doing this, and how to mitigate this as much as possible for the American consumer.

It wasn't like they planned out where production was going to go when there wasn't a supply from China. Instead, they are just sucking up the tariff money, at the expensive of middle class people paying more for the same products. It's not they're turning around and pumping that collected tariff money back into people feeling the pain. They're just indirectly taxing us more right now.

And the more pain consumers feel, they less they spend. And the less they spend, without any help, the more the economy is going to fucking tank.
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I think they needed to move fast.

They knew this was going to cause some pain, and they want to get most of it over and done with before midterms.

Sometimes a good plan executed now is better than a perfect one later.
 
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spat said:
I think they needed to move fast.

They knew this was going to cause some pain, and they want to get most of it over and done with before midterms.

Sometimes a good plan executed now is better than a perfect one later.
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At some people here need to stop making excuses.
 
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libertysnake said:
It's not they're turning around and pumping that collected tariff money back into people feeling the pain.
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Haven't they stated, numerous times, that they plan on using tariff money to fund the .gov and lower our taxes?
That is essentially "pumping that collected tariff money back into the people".

Time will tell if this is just more smoke up our ass...
 
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