From what I've seen we have apprehended 1% or less.
We need to expel 90% at a minimum.
We need to expel 90% at a minimum.
THE ADVENTURES OF THE 47TH PRESIDENT....
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kev74
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Can anyone handle even more winning???
Remember back in trump's first term, when the republicans had both houses of congress as well? Remember how that rat bastard RINO paul ryan just couldn't seem to find the time to repeal obamacare even though a bill to do so had been introduced a couple of times prior to trump's election?
We have the same do nothing congress now. The republicans hold both houses but they haven't done a goddam thing, even holding hearings where Fauci can be grilled (he can't take the 5th because he was pardoned). These people are contemptible.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
We have the same do nothing congress now. The republicans hold both houses but they haven't done a goddam thing, even holding hearings where Fauci can be grilled (he can't take the 5th because he was pardoned). These people are contemptible.
TOTALLY WORTHLESS: GOP Controlled House and Senate Sent Fewer Bills to GOP President Than Any Congress in 70 Years | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
President Trump won the 2024 election in a landslide, winning the US Presidency with 312 electoral votes, all of the battleground states, the popular vote, the US House of Representatives, The US Senate and 2750 counties across the country.
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Saltwater60
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To me the bigger benefit was to stop the flow of new ones coming into the country and that seems to have happened. Of course it’s important to remove as many as possible and especially the bad actors. You are correct that we will never get them all for many reasons. We need to evaluate the financial impact of this and make a determination as to what point we should stop. By what point I mean we have successfully captured say 93% of felons, 75% of those with a misdemeanor and 60% that have no criminal record. Is that acceptable because to get more it will take us more time and effort spending more money. Whats the cut off or the off ramp point? Hard to say.
Saltwater60
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So one has to ask how this works? It’s through an executive order so I don’t like the process of how we got there. Let me ask why this wasn’t put through the house and senate? Surely it would have passed and who in their right mind would have voted no for it. If the democrats did vote no wouldn’t this be a great way to say they are all talk and no action and will do anything to subvert republicans? This to me would be the best bipartisan support bill that I can think of. So why wasn’t it down this way? Not saying Trump shouldn’t have acted and done this it just makes me think there’s more to this and it can be undone easily. Sorry I just do t trust politicians, any of them but this is pretty great and I’d love to see how the left will hate this one. He’s smart to do a few things people might hate then pull this out of his hat to detract from that stuff.
Saltwater60
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Keep in mind Obama’s 5 million packing that administration decided to count every person encountered and prevented from entering the country. That is a huge difference between hunting them down in the USA, capturing them, and deporting them. Biden could have sent 5-10 times obamas number packing but he opened the gates and let them in instead of turning them away.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
I think they continue full steam ahead for a yr or two then just go to normal deportation procedures. Like you said, the big thing is keeping the border secure, which will only last as long as the commies arent in charge.
Thats the problem with everything he has done so far, it'll all be undone just like Biden did when he got put in office. As you say "all talk and no action" is the game thats been played in Congress forever
Saltwater60
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90% of what? 90% of all illegals in this country captured and deported? Let’s be real and that will never happen. It’s not even feasible. First any number is a guess at best how many are here. 90% of felons might be reasonable but the cost to deport 90% of every illegal will be staggering and nearly impossible to achieve. Biden should have been stopped by arrest or any other legal means to stop these illegals at the boarder. Now we are stuck with many of them forever because it’s just not possible to get them all or even most of them.
If the number posted above of 133,000 is remotely accurate we’re about 4 months into his presidency. Let’s say they have been actively doing this for 2 months now and got 133,000 then we multiple that by 6 to get a year and we get about 800,000. If we take 800,000 and multiple it by 4 because we assume they will get better and more efficient at this you’re at 3.2 million captured and deported. That number is roughly 25% of the illegals in the USA currently. At some point that rate will decrease so to get 90% you’re looking at well over a decade to accomplish that and that’s not counting the extras sneaking in or democrats stopping this when they are in power. Feasibly you’re looking at 15 years of this to accomplish that.
Now he wants to hire 20,000 officers to help with the deportation efforts. So do we support this? I don’t support expanding the federal government in any fashion. The way to approach this is to say to all these sanitary states and cities you get no federal money if you don’t hand over criminals/illegal aliens arrested/encountered for deportation. NUS has given them driver licenses/ID’s so they know who they are and where they live right?
Donald Trump calls for 20,000 new officers to aid with deportations - BBC News
The directive is part of his administration's drive to incentivise illegal immigrants to self-deport.
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Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the sub-agency that primarily deals with illegal immigration, currently has more than 21,000 employees.
Of those, it has 6,100 deportation officers and more than 750 enforcement removal assistants, according to the agency's website.
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Robin
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Then what files does Bondi claim to have dozens and dozens of and the FBI pouring over them?
Robin
Robin
Saltwater60
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Is this winning or losing? Not a fan at all and I’m sure it won’t impact me or anyone I know.
fortune.com
Trump’s tax hike on millionaires is back on the table—but experts say it won't make a dent in the ultra-rich
The richest sliver of Americans now own a record share of the wealth, and tweaking income taxes is unlikely to change that.
Not sure I agree with it but it does silence all those talking points about "tax cuts for the rich" and "trump only cares about billionaires". I think it's definitely a political play.Is this winning or losing? Not a fan at all and I’m sure it won’t impact me or anyone I know.
Trump’s tax hike on millionaires is back on the table—but experts say it won't make a dent in the ultra-rich
The richest sliver of Americans now own a record share of the wealth, and tweaking income taxes is unlikely to change that.
Saltwater60
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Agreed but IMO the way to increase tax revenue is to increase business revenues. Change policy and regulations to make it cheaper or easier to produce in the USA. Hrs doing some of that but this is/was a liberal talking point and a reason they were against his tax cuts. He’s essentially validating their concerns. I’m guessing this is his way of getting his spending bill passed. I still don’t like it.
JaguarJaguarGolf
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I saw some of the news conference.
To me it seems he's doing it through the tariff avenue
stokes
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Anybody in a position to "tax the rich" is rich themselves, dem or rep. Does anyone really believe they will raise their own taxes?
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Saltwater60
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Maybe but not sure how tariffs raise taxes because tariffs and taxes are different. I know there is a lot of talk about the tariffs increasing revenues in the federal government but it would be how I said it would work by increasing business sales and onshoring. Products made here get corporate taxes but the article spins it a different way saying a new tax bracket would be made for those making 2.5 million and earnings off traded stocks held for less than 3 years would be taxed and treated as income. This I understand slightly and on the base principle but not in-depth because I’m not a stock trader. I can see this and if they cash out the stock and have the money then they should be taxed on it as income, but I’m not sure if they sell Apple stock at a $200 price per share increase but then immediately sell that stock and buy more with the proceeds.
From the article but I don’t see the press conference and Trump says a lot of things then changes his mind or is playing people so who knows. This doesn’t seem to be the same as Canada being 51 though.
President Donald Trump reportedly asked House Speaker Mike Johnson this week to create a new tax bracket for people making over $2.5 million, the New York Timesreported and Fortune confirmed.
Trump is also considering ending a loophole that allows finance professionals like hedge-fund and private-equity managers to pay lower tax rates than ordinary workers, and taxing stock buybacks by corporations, the Times reported. The decidedly populist proposals appeal to the MAGA base, which often stresses the party’s responsibility to working-class people.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Tariffs *are* taxes.
The definition of a tariff is a tax on imported goods.
The ironic thing is that the left has been screaming to increase taxes on big businesses forever, and almost all tariffs are paid by big business.
But suddenly *now* they acknowledge that big business will just pass any taxes on to the consumer.
thughes
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Fact is, this wouldn't have had a snowball's chance if this was put before the legislature: Every single representative with pharmaceutical companies in their portfolios would have squashed it before it even got out of committee.
These people don't give a rat's ass about anything but their own personal fortunes.
Saltwater60
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Maybe but then it would have been a great point to point out because the left has been crying about this for a long time.
Saltwater60
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Yes I put that poorly and many consider tariffs taxes. I look at them differently but you’re not wrong about how tariffs can be looked at. I meant in this situation and what Trump is talking about doing. They want to do a new tax bracket so I considered this different than collection through tariffs.
An emergency edict should be created and enforced that every person over 12 years old must carry an official ID.
Then send out the trucks and begin filling them up.
Off to the camps, where they will be fed, housed, and receive health care - temporarily. And have their DNA harvested.
They will have sufficient time to provide proof of legal residency in the USA or their home country. Then off they go.
Trump is already signing deals with other countries to accept these illegals.
Any sympathy I once had has been extinguished.
Then send out the trucks and begin filling them up.
Off to the camps, where they will be fed, housed, and receive health care - temporarily. And have their DNA harvested.
They will have sufficient time to provide proof of legal residency in the USA or their home country. Then off they go.
Trump is already signing deals with other countries to accept these illegals.
Any sympathy I once had has been extinguished.
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
Ugh... in addition to the obvious historical realities, "show me your papers" is also a violation of the fourth amendment.
Furthermore, no one should need ID to simply exist.
Saltwater60
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Sorry man that’s way too far for me. That’s way too much control and power given to the government. You allow this what’s next? Safe inspections on guns, ammo counts, reeducation camps for voting for Trump? This is a bridge we do not want to cross.
If we fail to act now, and deal with some temporary pain, America will be lost.
Do not underestimate Soros and the Communists.
Do not underestimate Soros and the Communists.
Acer-m14
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because the Republicans in office do not know how to write a bill nor get off their lazy asses
Acer-m14
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how to catch Illegals the easy way ...
when is the next census ?? 2030 ..
Then Prez JD Vance and VP Trump take every ICE agent and makes them Census door to door counters ..
when is the next census ?? 2030 ..
Then Prez JD Vance and VP Trump take every ICE agent and makes them Census door to door counters ..
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This, right here.
What have the republicans actually done since gaining a majority in the House & Senate?
No investigations into the covid abuses...
No arrests of corrupt politicians (of EITHER side)...
No laws passed restoring the Rights of Americans the Democrats stole...
In fact, one of the only things I've heard they have done is block bills that have been submitted to restore Rights (such as removing silencers from the NFA).
2026 is going to be a bloodbath for the repubs. They are literally handing everything over to the dems in the mid-terms. The fence sitters who helped the repubs win are going to abandon them in droves due to their inaction and stupidity.
kev74
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Its almost like they don't want to win. Just complain and fundraise.